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  • How to create an Embroidery Jacquard ?

    Posted by David Norris on September 17, 2004 at 8:43 am

    Does anyone know the process/software involved in making Jacquards ?

    We spend hundreds a year on creating/editing these and would like to create our own in-house if its relatively cheap to setup.

    Any infomation would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers in advance.

    Dave.

    Moonsmurf replied 19 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Kevin.Beck

    Member
    September 17, 2004 at 10:24 am

    thats not a word I`ve heard in years (Jacquards )

    Your post is alttle confusing,

    you say you already make/edit them, then you ask about creating them??

    anyway.

    99% of embroidery designs are passed to the machine via a floppy.

    Software like, pulse/ wilcom etc is used to scan in the logo and the manually re-create the image, using the original scan as a template. varoius stiches are used to create the effect.

    The software costs anything from £1k, same as sign software, available in moduals, depending upon the market you require.

    We use Pulse, and it cost approx £4K. Wilcom, top of the range was £12K last time I enquired.

    I`m know looking into a corel version, which allows vestor images to be used to create embroidery files.

    Though I must stress, embroidery digitizing requires great skill.

  • David Norris

    Member
    September 17, 2004 at 10:33 am

    Becky, thanks for your quick response.

    We contract out all our embroidery and get charged usually £45 – 90 for the jacquard creation. If our client makes an alteration to the design we get charged an editing fee (usually £20). We dont actually do anything other than supply the artwork.

    Your post has given me a good starting point to follow though. 😀

  • john6512

    Member
    September 17, 2004 at 3:40 pm

    Hi

    Beware of CorelWINGS, it looked to be a great idea, but at the end of the day, you cant expect a £1k peice of software to be cleaer enough to work out satin stitches and complex fills – the quality is not there yet for anything other than a very simple image.

    We spent £000’s on embroidery design software and how have 3 years expereicne in design – it is not an easy subject to master and dont expect much help from the suppliers, as they’d rather provide the punching service.

  • Kevin.Beck

    Member
    September 17, 2004 at 7:45 pm

    john.

    I do realise that theres more to clicking a few buttons to produce quality embroidery designs.

    Theres so many permitaions – underlay/ stiches/ garment material etc etc.

    we have auto stich on the pulse software, but hardly ever use it, as it doesn`t produce the quality.

    It does take years of training to produce quality designs. No auto software will ever replace manual digitising.

    We see some shockingly bad designs when we`re out & about, but some people just won`t pay to have the design digitised.
    We only see these people when they are after another run of polos, they come to us after not being satisfied by the chap down the road who can auto punch a J Peg………He offers free set up when you order 12 polos…..

    This is the only reason why I`ve been looking at the coreldrawings…

    Enzo.
    Sign software is a doddle compaired to embroidery software, so tread carefuly.

    I must say johns right about the lack of support. we`ve waited 3 days for someone to get back in touch with us when we had probs. Supporting software doesn`t earn money. Selling backing material/thredas/ machines does.

  • Moonsmurf

    Member
    September 18, 2004 at 11:24 pm

    Hey Guys
    We create and edit our own embroidery jacquards or tapes. We use Wilcom, Ethos, Corel Drawings and Wings! (Long story!) :lol1:

    1. COrel Drawings is great but rubbish 😥 for editing and unless you have a working knowledge of manual digitising or punching it will be a waste of your money. They sell it as idiot proof and that it auto punches, sometimes it can cost you more in time getting to do what you want.

    2. The amount of money you are paying for your tapes is hugely overpriced. We have normally charge a flat trade rate that allows our customer to charge 100% in top of that to their customer. We DO NOT charge for any edits or adjustments, or things like substituting text, years, colour changes. We take care of these and have built up great working relationships with our customers, i think the quickest one we have ever been faced with was 20mins, for a customer in Leeds to let him embroider shirts the same day for a basketball team leaving for the states!

    3. Buying the software is fine, but it can be expensive getting the training and the time involved to learn how to create jacquards. I understand your frustration with other firms offering free setups, alot of the time they are either sub standard or taken from a cd of stock designs. We normally find the price of the setup spread across the shirts and not listed as a seperate charge works well, kinda mind over matter!

    Let me know if I can help in your trianing of whatever software you opt for

    Lanie

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