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    Posted by Martin Kennedy on April 3, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    Hi Guys/Gals

    Could anybody enlighten me regarding the way that this type of sign is produced? I believe it is chemically etched and filled with coloured inks. Some of the text is incredibly fine (0.5mm wide in parts) and perfect quality.

    Does anybody on the boards do this work and willing to divulge some info to a complete beginner?

    Who would supply the machinery to do this type of work in brass/stainless/aluminium?

    Is it worth getting into doing this work? i.e. more hassle than it’s worth or lucrative?

    What type of inks are used to get the colour and does it have to be baked onto the metal?

    Any help and or advice would be much appreciated.

    Cheers

    Martin


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    Vijay Wadhwa replied 16 years, 1 month ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • David_Evans

    Member
    April 3, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    It could be dye subbed i think

  • Martin Kennedy

    Member
    April 4, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Hi David

    It’s not dye subbed – the letters and logos etc. are sunken into the stainless steel by about 0.5 to 1.0mm.

    Anybody else know who would sell the equipment or be able to help?

    Martin

  • Simon Strom

    Member
    April 4, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    Yeah not really sure how that ones made. I’ve never seen color engraving of that type before (although I’ve done color printing with inks from an engraved plate). You might contact one of the people found in this link. They might be able to scrounge up who produced the plaque in question. Re-post if you don’t mind when you find out how it was done. I’m curious now.

    http://www.offlicencenews.co.uk/informa … fault.aspx 😀

  • John Gregson

    Member
    April 4, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    Hi Martin,
    A friend of mine told me that they used to etch brass by screen printing it. Basically you screen print a negitive (full solid apart from the lettering), when this is dry its washed in an acid bath. The solid ink or whatever is used is uneffected by the acid and the lettering is etched away. The ink stuff is then washed off and the etch is filled with which ever colour you want.

    I think thats how it works :lol1:

    Cheers John

  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    April 4, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    yeah….I have done etch work before although I was never part of the set up

    basically you print the resist as John says in negative… the exposed material is then attacked by the acid which is eaten away…the resist is then washed off and you can fill in the coloured areas by hand

    the acid etching is a bit of a science though…not something that you can just play with

    I don’t know anything about laser engraving but I would imagine 1 offs are done by laser rather than an expensive screen print setup

  • Rodney Gold

    Member
    April 5, 2008 at 5:03 am

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … hing#19658

    The type of lasers that work deep into metal are normally galvo NdYags and can only do small areas as well as not being able to get good penetration or controlled depth , it’s unlikely to be lasered.
    If you want more info on etching , like what mordants to use on various metals or info on resists , ask here.

  • Martin Kennedy

    Member
    April 5, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Hi All

    Thanks for the info guys.

    Rodney – I am very interested in finding out more about the use of mordants with metals etc. I have read the details and description that you posted here a few years ago – it was very informative. Have you found out any more or have more info since this post? Did you ever get around to doing a demo and explanation on the ‘production; model of your idea to include hot mordant spraying?

    Any more help and info would be appreciated.

    Cheers

    Martin

  • Vijay Wadhwa

    Member
    April 11, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Hi Martin

    I know a company which sells etching machines

    http://www.ideafactory.co.in

    cheers
    Vijay 😀

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