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  • how do i scale out my wrap design for vehicles?

    Posted by Steve McAdie on February 4, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Hi,
    I am trying to design a wrap for my van, the design needs to be just under 5 metres long and approx 1.8 metres high when printed. Now the questions are what dimensions would be best to design it at and what dpi should I use in the design to get good quality. I have tried doing it scaled to quarter size 2.5m X 0.9m at 300 dpi but my computer doesn’t seem to have enough resources to cope with that. I am using Photo shop to design the graphics

    Steve

    Steve Underhill replied 16 years, 3 months ago 9 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Jon Marshall

    Member
    February 4, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    well that will be 75dpi when scaled up so if you go much lower the quality will suffer. What spec is your PC?

  • David Rowland

    Member
    February 4, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    100dpi at right size works very well… lower dpi when struggling… forget text and go over with basic vinyls, just concentrate on backgrounds only

  • Steve McAdie

    Member
    February 4, 2008 at 9:20 pm

    Thanks for the replies jonm01 & Dave

    The pc spec is alright processor wise it is Ram where it falls short, only got 1gig which has been adequate up till now but now i’m trying larger graphics It is struggling and photoshop gives message not enough ram when running filters. I think I will try Daves suggestion of 100 dpi at full size if that doesn’t work I will have to splash out on another gig I think

    Cheers
    Steve

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 4, 2008 at 10:21 pm

    Text can be set as a vector overlay, if you need to print it, and takes up next to nothing in resources, no need for it to be a raster.

    Peter

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    February 4, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    I’m sure you already know but just in case you don’t, turn up the memory used by photoshop, the default id 50% I have mine set to 90% that will help a little, also if you have multiple hard disks use those as scratch disks also

  • Simon.James

    Member
    February 4, 2008 at 11:44 pm

    photoshop is a very ram intensive package, dont know a lot about P.C.S (the only thing I know about P.C.s is that you should only use them to play football with them and never use them for Graphics)

    On the Mac in college I was told to successfully work in photoshop you a minimum of 128mb of ram to open 128mb of ram to work with and a 128mb of ram to save, that why most mac have at least a 512 card.

    the idea of using macs for photoshop is they only need half the memory of a pc to work at the same speed making them more efficient.

    i once imposed a 16gb photoshop file on a G3 i went home on the friday and came in on the monday at it had successfully distilled to a 28 mb PDF file which I then printed down to a agfa sherpa.

    Photoshop is a great package, one thing you could do is take your photos in to quark express and build up your type there in vector, this will save on tens of ram intensive layers in photoshop.

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    February 4, 2008 at 11:54 pm
    quote Simon James:

    one thing you could do is take your photos in to quark express and build up your type there in vector, this will save on tens of ram intensive layers in photoshop.

    That is of course IF he has spent £900 on a page layout program that a signmaker probably has no need for. :lol1:

    As for using PCs for graphics, they are fine Ive been using photoshop on the PC for over 10 years, 3D studio max, the most widely used 3d animation package for gaming and film and studio graphics is ONLY available on the PC, and lots of Mac users are trying to run it under boot camp. :lol1:
    Why do you think there are so many windows emulators for macs.
    Whats that tell you.
    PCs are just fine for graphics.

    Plenty of ram, and a decent hard disk, thats what you need for photoshop.

  • Simon.James

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 12:05 am

    yeh

    youre right, i only use quark becuase i am from the print industry, it is a good package great for getting everthing it one place, ie . photoshop files , corel eps, illustrator eps, frehand etc. it is great for tiling as well.

    simon

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 12:08 am

    Ive used it before but didnt get to grips with it, I do all my layout in photoshop anyway, Its the industry standard for page layout though but its a luxury I cant afford, same as 3D studio max, I already bought that once from the USA and autodesk wouldnt let me register it in the UK.
    £500 down the drain, it was a bargain too its usually £3500:(

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 12:16 am

    Steve, how do you manage with just photoshop for your layout, what about text and vectors?, I know you use a cutter, so what vector program do you use?

    Peter

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Oh I meant for graphics Peter, I do a lot of design work, like business cards & flyers etc.
    for sign making & cutting I use corel X3.
    Im just doing my new graphics for my van now.
    But think Im going to get to bed, its true what you lot say, the hardest signs to make are your own.

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 12:23 am
    quote Steve Underhill:

    and lots of Mac users are trying to run it under boot camp. :lol1:
    Why do you think there are so many windows emulators for macs.
    Whats that tell you.

    that most people prefer macs but want PC software :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: 🙄 🙄 🙄

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 12:32 am

    That "some" people prefer macs, you mean.
    Count the users. :lol1:

    Anyway shant get into this old chestnut, use what you like,
    its like a flexi/signlab/ corel/illustrator debate, one that cant be won, its just a matter of personal preference.
    However

    The pros and cons of it are

    macs pro’s
    good speed, reliability, better o/s, less susceptible to viruses & spyware

    Cons
    lack of software, lack of shops that fix them, lack of decent parts for them that are readily available, and if you like playing games youre pretty much screwed.

    PC’s
    all of the above except the cons, and the virus spyware bit.
    LOL 😛

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 12:38 am

    All I have ever used is my spectrum, I have heard the commodore may have some advantages, but I am very sceptical.. will we ever need more than 48kb of ram? One day we may get a 240min cassette…
    Peter

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 12:41 am

    Oh Peter………..
    I used to love the spectrum, I have ant attack on my PC now.
    cant remember how to play it but I can still run about using q a o and p to move into certain death, jet pac, manic miner, jet set willy sabre wulf, atic atac.
    I want a spectrum now.
    I still have an Amiga I may fire that up too.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 1:01 am

    my amstrad pcw has a lot to answer to, its what got me started on this game

    chris

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 2:31 am

    600dpi at 25%.

    Using a Quad Core Intel with 4gb ram dedicated photoshop swap disk and raid 0 drives.

    Pretty cheap computer. Photoshop memory turned up to use most of that ram.

    I also work between illustrator and photoshop and use as many vector objects as I can in photoshop.

    I tend do do what I can in illustrator then take it to photoshop to add airbrushing or effects etc.

  • Steve McAdie

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 8:48 am

    Thanks for all the replies, I didn’t know you could alter the amount of ram in photoshop as it has always worked fine in the past but now I’m wanting to do larger stuff on it, it isn’t having it.
    Steve could you run me through how to turn up the ram in photoshop.

    Steve

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 8:55 am

    Steve

    edit/preferences/performance

    Peter

  • Steve McAdie

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 9:09 am

    Thanks very much Peter.

    Steve

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    February 5, 2008 at 9:38 am

    Sorry didnt get here in time, I was over the other shop
    Peter saves the day! 😀

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