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how can i achieve pantone matching please?
Hello,
I am trying to print off a batch of logos on my mimaki jv3 spII.
The orange on the logo is a specific pantone, Which using a pantone book i have assigned in coreldraw 11. After exporting the logo as a pdf. eps. ai. etc, putting it through shiraz and then printing, im finding the orange to always be way off from the pantone.
Is this just a coreldraw issue? or a shiraz issue?
Any ideas would be muchus appreciated as the deadline is approaching quickly.
Cheers.
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14 Replies
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You need to print the pantone colour as a CMYK colour, if you have done this already then I would say it’s your rip profile that is out.
I’m sure others will have more info that might help.
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Just tried it and same problem. Is the profile something that you can adjust?
Im trying to match it to pantone hexachrome orange c.
Cheers.
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From my experience, it’s almost impossible to ‘match’ pantone colours as there are too many parameters – speed / dpi / vinyl etc. We have often had this problem with fussy customers.
To get a good match for the colour that you want, you need to get hold of a printable pantone chart (With the pantone numbers) and print this out LARGE on your machine. You can then match the pantone colour from a book with the colour that your printer gives you and then change the artwork colour to match. E.g. Pantone 150 might need to be changed to pantone 155 in the artwork to ensure that the printed version will match the correct pantone colour.
Hope that makes sense! You can keep the Printed pantone chart for future work that needs to be have exact colours.
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If you are trying to print out a bright vibrant orange, you are not going to get a close match – whether you are using a JV3 in CYMK mode or CYMKLcLm. This is nothing to do with the JV3 specifically, it applies to all CYMK machines.
The CYMK gamut (range of achievabe colours) is quite limited and is particularly so for vibrant oranges and greens.
I would suggest you get hold of a ‘Pantone Colourbridge solid to process guide’. This is a swatch which has the pantone colours on it, and printed next to them are the nearest achievable colors you can get by mixing CYMK. Most people, when they look through them for the first time, are quite shocked when they see how badly out some colours are.
Best Regards,
Mike
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I have the pantone colourbridge coated european swatches, and yes the colours in cymk can vary quite a lot, So can anyone answer this, how do they print the swatches?
Peter
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Good point 😀 Alrite well cheers for knowledge input. Will just have to keep having a crack at it untill its close enough i think.
Cheers.
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quote marcopolo:Just tried it and same problem. Is the profile something that you can adjust?Im trying to match it to pantone hexachrome orange c.
Cheers.
I suspect this may be a spot colour – i.e Is it fluorescent?
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quote Nick Minall:great link Nick, very informative! thanks
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Thanks Nick I think I may print that out to show my designer friends who insist on using pantones in their designs
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quote Peter Normington:Thanks Nick I think I may print that out to show my designer friends who insist on using pantones in their designs
PeterNow that’s a good idea 😀 do you think it will do any good 😕
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Thanks for the link Nik – Very informative and it clears up a lot of unknowns for me. It also answers Marco’s question about printing a Hexachrome colour
"Hexachrome colors (for printing with 6 colors–CMYK plus a special orange and green)"
In other words Hexachrome colours cannot be matched simply with CMYK – You need the extra Orange and green colours too
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Hexachrome was brought out as it had a wider colour ‘Gamut’ and could give more vibrancy. Although initially most software only had the ability to specify Hexichrome colours and not create Hexachrome bitmaps and split to the 6 colours.
As has been said already spot colours can not be mapped to 4 colour process with total accuracy.
Most corporates have a spec for SPOT / CMYK / RGB / RAL / etc etc because they accept the colour schemes can not all replicate each other. By specifying for different processes they create some form of consistency.
As to producing the Pantone SPOT / PROCESS charts I assume the process is printed process & the spot colours printed spot, the process side all being able to be printed in 1 hit on a 4 colour press. The other side must take a long time to print even on a 12 or 15 colour press that only means 12 or 15 spot colours.
Would be interesting to know precisely how it’s done.
Tim.
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Crumbs! Its a minefield
Great link Nick
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