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  • Help with lettering….

    Posted by Jeff_Brown on September 16, 2008 at 10:55 am

    I have a new project to do… Mate of mine has a 1963 Plymouth that is in its original faded and rubbed through paint. Real patina! Looks fantastic. He wants me to do some lettering on it. But the lettering needs to look like it was painted 40 years ago. So it needs to be worn and faded. As well as rubbed through in places. Any Ideas on paint and method on this one?

    Robert Willis replied 15 years, 4 months ago 7 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    September 16, 2008 at 10:58 am

    Bit like this… I was thinking of using HOK. Not going for full coverage. then age it with a few scratches, and some t-cut.

    The reason for HOK? Or other solvent, If I used Water based paints, I would have to clear it with something…..

    Would still welcome some input though! PLEASE!


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  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    September 16, 2008 at 11:49 am

    I don’t know the method, but that look is becoming popular here with rat rods and such.
    I like it.
    Wish I could have been more help!
    Love….Jill

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    September 16, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    Have done similar on walls and boardsetc. never on a car body though. I would rub on some candle wax first, paint and then rub back, and then make up a succession of staining washes to rub over the remaining paint, depending on how old I wanted it to look.
    Hope that helps.

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    September 16, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    Thanks Jill…. It is VERY popular at the moment. I have seen someone attempt it with one shot, then rub some off…. But it looked like new paint that had been scrubbed off a bit!

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    September 16, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Thanks Harry…. Did not think of de-toothing it with wax. I guess I really need to do a test panel or two.

  • PatrickBoothman

    Member
    December 3, 2008 at 10:29 am

    I know this link is a bit old but. . .fingers crossed.
    Harry, you mentioned "staining washes". Am i correct in thinking that would be really thinned down enamel paint or something different ?
    Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
    Cheers patrick

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    December 3, 2008 at 10:38 am

    What are you using it on Patrick? Have never done it on a vehicle (as the bishop said to the actress!) but if it was on a board or fascia I would use artist oil paints as the pigment is much stronger (loosen and thinned with a mixture of linseed oil and turps) but I’m sure enamel paints would work as well and dry quicker. Only problem I see would be the ease of applying over large areas…..enamels would be a bit ‘sticky’ and hard to move around.

  • PatrickBoothman

    Member
    December 3, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    Cheers harry. The idea was to use it on gloss covered plywood. To create a sort of aged effect. I will have a play about and see what looks good, and quoting Jeff Brown, "I guess I really need to do a test panel or two."

    Cheers again.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    December 3, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    have ya done this job yet Jeff? be interested to see the result.

  • Beej Curtis

    Member
    December 9, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Hi Jeff,

    Steve Vandemon specialises in faux sign work on very old gas station signage and his advice was this, if you build the edges with xtra paint to get a ridge and then sand back, you can get more natural chips and relaistic looking fades.

    Hope that helps. If you pay us a visit in the New Year we can go over it in detail. I reckon hand lettered in One Shot or any other sign paint or even, if you go for the Auto-Borne route which we all now LOVE 😉 you could paint it much much easier, you already have the materials AND once you have arrived at the finished faux look correctly you can take an exterior clear varnish and simply re-letter it over the signs overlapping slightly by a few mil at the edges to lock it down.

    A good varnish or even try the Top Coat by Medea as this will build nicely and you could cut paper or card templates to mask the lettering and simply spray the Top Coat over as it is Solvent-resistant when dry and moves a little due it’s acrylic properties.

    Test panels first mate, that is the way to go and also, check some of the cool fonts available for Raceway style type on http://www.letterheadfonts.com/styles/script.shtml http://artandsignstudio.com/fonts.html and http://www.signdna.com/v2/index.php

    PS: Another good idea is to cut sign masks with the fonts and simply paint the lettering if you’re not too happy signwriting. Just call me or email if you need some help bud.

    Beej

  • Beej Curtis

    Member
    December 9, 2008 at 11:56 am

    PS: I can’t seem to edit my posts (Rob?) but I realised the link for the Letterhead Fonts is going to the scrips page so just hit http://www.letterheadfonts.com/

    They have some BEAUTIFUL new stuff coming out, very Butler-style which is incredible too, absolutely amazing stuff.

    To think you had to start with a pencil to get this type of letter art once upon a time but it still is just a black font I guess unless you know what to do with it!

    Have fun Jeff and let us know how you get along.

    Beej

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    December 9, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Hello Beej….. Fancy seeing you here! That is some great info there. Will def come and see you again in the new year mate… Try keeping me away!

    Hugh, I have not done it yet, been too tied up with me painting! But will be doing a few cars very soon, I will have at least 4 cars painted for the Euronats next year!

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    December 9, 2008 at 4:11 pm
    quote Jeff_Brown:

    Hello Beej….. Fancy seeing you here! That is some great info there. Will def come and see you again in the new year mate… Try keeping me away!

    Hugh, I have not done it yet, been too tied up with me painting! But will be doing a few cars very soon, I will have at least 4 cars painted for the Euronats next year!

    that Beej makes it sound so easy!! lol.

    i’ll look forward to seeing the finished cars Jeff, i might even try and make the euronats in 09, last two years have seen me on my fishing holidays so i’ve missed it. seems odd to think that only a few years ago i’d’ve sold me granny to be certain of being there every year!

    hope you’re keeping well dude.

    Hugh

  • Jeff_Brown

    Member
    December 9, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Well, Blues Dart should be finished by then.. He is currently installing a 540ci motor. Jems should be done, I have a Dart local to me ready, and my A100 should be finished by then as well!

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    December 9, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    crikey, old blue don’t mess about now then! i look in on the forum from time to time, seems a lot has changed, including half the members!

  • Robert Willis

    Member
    December 14, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Perhaps sponging or crinkled plastic wrap might give the effect you are after. I would try using a slow reducer with the HOK and then dab at it with a sponge, wrap or bunched up paper towel.

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