• Help with Corelx4

    Posted by Derek Hunter on June 29, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Hey guys,

    I’m currently working on a project which involves drawing some plans out for a good friend of mine. The project is a simple circular man-way with 18 holes in with a space of 120mm center to center.

    My question is this… how the hell do i get the spacing right? I’ve tried using a box at 120mm and then rotating it but its just does not work! any help would be greatly appreciated

    John Hughes replied 13 years, 10 months ago 7 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Glenn Sharp

    Member
    June 29, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Hi Derek,

    Can you expand on that a bit……

    excuse me but I’m hopeless at understanding written instructions 😳

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    June 29, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    quote :

    simple circular man-way with 18 holes

    thats me lost

    sketch to help please.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    June 29, 2010 at 8:18 pm

    I presume you mean man hole cover?
    do you need the holes in a circle or as a radial group, starting with one in the centre?

    You will need to know dimensions and radius of holes and cover
    Peter

  • Mike Grant

    Member
    June 29, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Use the "Complex star" tool on the left side of the page. This will give you a 9 pointed star. Duplicate star and revolve to desired position. You now have an 18 pointed star. Just size to suit.
    Simples! 😀

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    June 29, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Here’s how to do it.

    You have 18 circles each separated 120mm centre to centre. This can be represented by 18 triangles each with a base of 120mm and two other equal sides of length = X

    Now you need to calculate the length of the two equal sides X. The angle of the two equal sides can be calculated thus:- 360 divided by 18 = 20 degrees. It follows therefore that the angle of two other corners is (180-20) divided by 2 = 80 degrees.

    You now have two useful pieces of information. The length of the base of the triangle and the angle of the three corners of the triangle.

    i.e length – 120mm Angle 1 – 20 degrees, angles 2 and three = 80 degrees each.

    Now using simple trigonometry you can calculate the length of the two equal sides thus

    Sin angle 20 degrees = 120/X
    Cos angle 80 degrees = 120/x
    Tan angle 80 degrees = x/120

    By simultaneously solving the above three equations you can work out the length of X.

    Once X is solved, you can accurately draw your triangle, then by placing 18 of them alongside each other so that the long side (x) is touching (in each case), you will have an accurate template for drawing the centres of each circle.

    All you need to know now is the overall diameter of the manhole and the diameter of each of the 18 circles.

    Simples

    Alternatively – do what Mike says 😕

  • John Hughes

    Member
    June 29, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    or like this !!

    john


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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    June 29, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    or this


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  • Derek Hunter

    Member
    June 30, 2010 at 6:49 am

    Phil Very impressive instructions

    the OD of the manhole cover is 747mm
    the line on which the holes need to be centered is 700mm
    the holes are 20mm dia
    holes need to be 120mm apart

    the inside circle is a flange that will connect to the bottom of the manway so both manway and flange should bolt together
    here is a file to show you what i mean


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  • Derek Hunter

    Member
    June 30, 2010 at 7:00 am

    John how did you do that matey?

  • John Hughes

    Member
    June 30, 2010 at 12:09 pm

    Hi

    Drag guideline on to page
    double click guideline which opens dialog box
    click ‘guides’ on the left
    On ‘angle’ type in 20 and click ‘Add’
    Keep adding require number / angles – 40, 60 etc

    That will give you the ‘guides’ at the required angles

    Make sure ‘snap to guides’ in on
    draw your circles and move to desired position

    cheers
    john

  • Derek Hunter

    Member
    June 30, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    John you LEGEND!!!! thanks very much matey very much appreciated

  • John Hughes

    Member
    June 30, 2010 at 3:55 pm

    no probs

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