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help with a gerber/omega problem?
hi all,
not sure if this is the right place to post this, if not i’m really sorry!! tried going into “Graphic Design Help & Discussion” but wouldn’t let me post.i’m in need of some help with a file i’m working on. i’m using omega and have recently bought a gerber edge fx. i’m having terrible trouble with a shade/halftone on a file i need to do.
i have an origanal sticker which was produced using a gerber so i know that this particular shade can be done but just can not get it right! would their be anyone willing to tell me where i’m going wrong? i can e-mail them the file so they can see and also send a pic of the origanal sticker i have been asked to do?
great forum by the way, came across it last year and then decided to join. will post a pic of myself as soon as. had some great tips off you guys already just reading some of the topics.
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hi matt
we have many edge users here, someone i am sure will help… however, until you get a reply you may want to try “4 edge talk.com” (no spaces) -
cheers rob, yes i have been onto that site and will post up a request their also, its just one of those jobs thats frustrating when you can’t get the end result right!! its a new machine and software package for me so i”ve alot to learn with it!! great site mate.
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Matt … I dont have a Gerber so Im of no help either sorry??
Will bump this post for you to bring it back up the list ……. as Im sure someone here has a gerber and might be able to help 😉
😀
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sorry cant help… sold our gerber a little while ago
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thanks so much carrie your a star!! getting kinda desprate to get the file sorted! nothing worse when you know the software and machine is capable but your not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙁
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cheers dave! thanks for the post anyways!
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I got a gerber, but I use signlab, dont know if I could help or not,
I will pm you me e mail addy send the file and I will have a goPeter
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thanks peter thats great! hopefully you can suggest or do something. thanks again.
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I cant pm you with my e-mail as i dont have the right membership, but we upgraded from an edge 1 to an edge 2, and immediately noticed the difference in output using different settings, the same file sent to plot printed using different profiles can give a great variation in output. Just as a suggestion was your file printed using an edge 1 or 2, and if you go into GSP plot/setup/device select and then the drop down menu in print mode can you then select that version of the edge, might be worth a go. If your sure that you have set up the job correctly then i would think that the answer must be within gspplot. I hope that ive understood your problem correctly and that this is of some use. If not try and post a few details. Although i expect Peters already got it sorted.
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hi peter tried e-mailing you twice but keeps getting returned mate!
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hi mart, i have an edge fx. basically i need to add a shade and i can not get it right. i have tried alot of different settings etc, much time, material wasted!!!!! i have a sticker here that has been done on an edge and the client wants me to do it, i think an fx also. he isn’t in contact with the guy anymore so can’t get him to do them again. the shade is very well done on the sticker and i have no idea how he did it!!
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Sorry mat missed a T out its peternormington@.@
Peter
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ah ha!! that’ll be why its getting returned then! i’ll try again, cheers peter.
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well as i said i have no gerber anymore… and cant open the prm file u sent
But from a silk screen perspective if this is a clear sticker, you would print a white base colour, then a solid red pantone 186 and then black faded dots over the top, the black should cancel out the red.
this does look gerber or hi-res screen making
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I cant open the file either, but for anyone else who might use omega, this is what Matt is trying to reproduce. Any ideas. I dont think it would be difficult to do the artwork, it would be a matter of print settings.
Peter
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Ill have a go, sent you a PM
Nick.
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dave sent you a plt file just now and i have an edge fx mate.
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cheers nic, just sent it you now mate.
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Have you managed to sort this yet?
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hi martyn, no not yet, nic is having a quick look at it at the mo, but any help would be great!!
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I got Omega 2.0 if you still need to, I can take a quick look at ‘er.
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Stevo
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Matt easy cure to your problem
create the badge as normal
instead of putting the back fade on print the red part as a full red. make sure you have your edge set up to finish where it starts in the print menu.
then print the black over the top as if you were printing a new job. hard to explain but if give me a call i could talk you through it easy
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you mean have the black as an overlay? you have an edge then??
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you can try this also
go onto http://www.brandsoftheworld.com
search for ducati corse at the bottom and download the eps file.
print it using gerber halftone fine on your halftone menu at 600x300dpi and it will work too
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cheers ian, i’ll try it. i’ve tried lots of different halftones and they never look the same as the origanal, which i know was made using an edge fx which i have! just don’t understand why i cant get the same results!!!!! thanks anyways, i’ll have a look at the link.
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only problem there idgni. its a full colour image. would be better in 2 spot?
the image does need an overprint, I havnt seen matts file but I suspect its not the artwork thats the problem, more the lpi and or halftone settingsMatt, how many copies of this are you going to make, No dis mate but. sometimes you have to decide if the time is worth the effort?
Peter
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hi pete the order is for 1000 with a repeat on this order regulary so its pretty important to get it as close to the pic as poss!
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peter, concerning the lpi and halftone settings, what in your knowledge would be the nearest settings to the origanal pic off the top of your head, if thats not an impossable question!!!!!!!!!!!! 😕
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cheers idgni
had a look, interesting site. doesn’t solve the fade though. everything else on the file i can do, no problems! just this darn fade!! its like a solid black at the top and comes down soooooooo fine, no big spots or anything! whoever did this must be good, because nic, stevo(thanks both) myself, the tech guys at spandex have all had a go without the same results!!!!!!!!!! this can’t be impossable?!?!!?! this was made on an edge fx(was told this) so i know it can be done!!! looks like i’m going to have to give up the order at this rate!! -
the fade is easy
the black is an overprint on the red. looks to be ruby red.
overprint a black gradient fill at a 35% solid top and fade through using gerbertone fine at 600x300dpi
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cheers ian, its (mod-edit) please read board rules this will be moded probably though!!
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Looks like you might have gotten it sorted Matt. 😀
I did see this post the other day but I didn’t have any solutions. I don’t do many gradients in Omega. Sorry to be no help.
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cheers marek, just noticed in some of your posts you mentioned you had an edge so thought you might has some ideas! everyone has been more than helpfull on the forum “thanks everyone” hopefully ian can do something with it! all the lpi and halftone settings i’ve used have not had the same effect as the origanal. thanks for your reply anyway.
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just sent email to you my phone number is on it . i have done a test print and it looks perfect give me a call and i will talk you through it
regards
Ian
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just looked at your photo of log. it differs a bit from the one on http://www.brandsoftheworld.com. don’t know which one is right but it will be easy to copy fills into yours anyway
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cheers ian, i’ll have a look at it in a minute mate and i’ll let you know.
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how did you get on?
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will let you know in a mo mate, just finishing off an order then going to try again, needs to be done as the order has to be done!!! 😕
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just sent you an e-mail ian.
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hi i have an edge and a knack for these problems…but i afraid the only way i could do it is by swopping between the spiral and classic dot patterns and changing the lpi…last time i did a job like that was for a Rav 4 car kit where it was printed and diecut…took me 5 days to copy the kit and loads of vinyl and foil as each kit was 2m long..but it was needed and i was only person who agreed to do it and charged a lot of doshers for 1000 kits and worked in my artwork fee.
id say print red first in middle section then over print with black with the fade from the top of the centre part of the logo but its so much more complicated i cant even imagine how to explain it…
but hell yeah looks like a real nightmare though! sub it to the guy who oringinally done it then u both win… u dont know what other business u may be able to do together.
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yeah ianahobbs,
it is a real nightmare trying to get it looking right! one of the members on here ian has been helping me out(thanks mate) and its just a matter of tweeking it a bit. i can’t believe how much time and efford let alone materials i’ve been through just to get a fade on a 2″ sticker right!! i would have told the person to use the origanal guy but their are no longer in the business, retired i think. thanks for the input anyways mate
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