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  • Heat Press – is the base supposed to wobble?

    Posted by biddwiser on May 1, 2006 at 1:17 pm

    Hi

    I am having probs with my heat press. Can’t get vinyl to stick to it. I thought I was doing something wrong, but I went to a local t-shirt printer with one of my designs and they did it in ten seconds, no problems. I watched and they did it exactly as I am doing it.

    Now, I have decided my heat press must have a a fault. It heats up fine, but I wonder if the pressure is all wrong. I have noticed that when the press is open, if I touch the silcon base, it wobbles back and forth a bit. It is not very sturdy.

    Is this normal? SHould it have a little suspension like this, or should it be solid? I think maybe this is why it’s not pressing vinyl properly.

    Also if I get low down and look at the press from the side, when it is clamped down, I can see a slight gap between the press and the pad – very tiny but there – on the left hand side.

    If any of you can use your experience to tell me if I am right here, please do!!

    I look forward to your replies,

    Nick

    Lorraine Clinch replied 17 years, 12 months ago 11 Members · 24 Replies
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  • Jim Clough

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 2:32 pm

    Hi Nick
    The loose play is known as a floating platen. The purpose being so that when the press is closed the top and bottom will meet together to make contact over the whole area. If there is a gap when closed then all I can think of is that the top platen is out of alignment more than the float in the bottom.
    Jim

  • Sarandaz

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 2:36 pm

    Hi Nik, Its happened to my heatpress once.If you look underneath your heatpress you should see one or two nuts or screws.they might be loose, just tight them problem should be resolve. i did same with my heatpress and its working perfect now.
    hope this will help

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 2:36 pm

    Thanks Jim, that narrows it down a bit. If the top platen is out of alignment, is it easy enough for me to sort this out?

  • Jim Clough

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 2:54 pm

    I have a press which had a top platen about 1/4 inch out. When I lowered it the right side would meet the bottom first with the 1/4 inch gap at the left. However as soon as the top and bottom made contact the bottom flipped over to compensate and gave total contact. As this was a new press the supplier changed it. What make is your press and is it new or within the guarentee?
    Jim

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 3:01 pm

    The make is Omron, I got it off eBay so there is no guarantee. The seller said it was a good solid press and was as new because he never used it – now I am wondering if there was a good reason he never used it!

    I just turned the press upside down and tightened the screws that Sarandaz mentioned. Just warming up now so I will let you know how I get on.

    I also tightened the screws on the top platen and I must admit when I closed it down, the gap looked reduced so fingers crossed….

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 3:04 pm

    By the way, do any of you use XPres’ Easy-cut? If so what temperature and duration do you recommend?

  • Sarandaz

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 3:15 pm

    Usualy Xpres sent their application instruction sheet with every order.With easy cut they recomen 10 sectime and 160 degree heat. and 180 degree for workwear clothing.
    But this recomendation is for their own make heat press, I have got china make cheap heat press and i 98 % of time i use 180 degree and between 20 – 30 sec

    I do alot of teeshirt and workwear hi viz clothing and i use SUPER FLEX from xpress its 5.25/mtr 50mm roll so worked out quite cheap and its good never had any problem or complaint

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 3:18 pm

    Right, having turned it upside down and tightened those screws, and having tightened a couple on the top platen, I just had my first success – well, half-success – as printing a tee (I wish I had half a bottle of champagne to celebrate!).

    I say half because half of my design stuck properly to the tee, the other half is hanging off. But this is a definite sign that I am halfway there!

    I’ve since tried another design and that fell off altogether. Now I look at the gap on the left hand side, where the platens meet, and it’s come back. Hmmm.

  • Phil Price

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 5:01 pm

    Hi Nick,

    Sounds like you need to increase the pressure on the press.

    Although Xpres recommend that the backing material is removed once cooled, I’ve found that certain colours (strange I know!!) seam to release far easier when warm or even hot.

    Xpres don’t say it’s necessary, but I always press again once the backing material is removed for a further 10 seconds.

    Regards,

    Phil

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 5:27 pm

    Apart from increasing the pressure, are you pre-pressing the garment to get rid of any moisture?
    It can happen If the garment is damp, that the material will not take, just a thought,

    Peter

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 5:28 pm

    Cheers Phil. Since my last post I’ve played around with it and, yeah, I think the problem all along was the pressure. I’ve since almost -ALMOST- got a whole design to stick. Next time I try, I will do as you say and peel it off when it’s warm.

    I have had so many problems from the first day I bought my cutter. Finally, FINALLY I am nearly at the point where I can make a damn t-shirt. If it wasn’t for this forum, I would have given up a long time ago.

    THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 5:29 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    Apart from increasing the pressure, are you pre-pressing the garment to get rid of any moisture?
    It can happen If the garment is damp, that the material will not take, just a thought,

    Peter

    Just read your message too, Pete. I wasn’t pre-pressing the t-shirt so that could also be a factor. Many thanks.

  • Sarandaz

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 7:26 pm

    Hi Nik
    Here i tell you full process what i do for tee shirt printing.
    1- turn you het press on and set its temp to 180 degree and time to 30 seconds

    2- put shirt under the press

    3- press for 5 sec and take off the pressure plate.

    4- put your print material on shirt make sure its in middle and both sides left right have equal distance

    5- press again for 30 second

    6-open or take the pressure off

    7- wait for 10-15 sec

    8-peel offbacking

    shirt is ready
    hope it will help

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 7:48 pm

    i would just like to add 30 secs may be a bit long i always press for between 10 to 20 secs max and most of the time 12 sec and even less on lycra and nylon

    rich

  • Sarandaz

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 8:31 pm

    Sorry i forgot to mention i have china made bit cheap heatpress, thats why i need to press for 30 second, but with good branded heat press 20 secs will be enough.

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 1, 2006 at 9:25 pm

    Thanks guys. I think I have a cheap China press too, so I will have a go with the 30 seconds if I don’t find 20 seconds is long enough.

    Has anyone even heard of Omron? I can’t find anything on the internet about Omron heat presses!

    However having looked on eBay recently I notice other people are selling ones identical to mine, just a different colour (and without the name Omron).

    I wish I had the money for a decent one, but for now I will settle for this quirky yellow beast!

  • Jim Clough

    Member
    May 2, 2006 at 7:01 am

    Omron are a very large worldwide company, but I’ve never heard of an Omron heat press.
    Jim

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 2, 2006 at 9:58 am

    I just checked the worldwide company’s website and the Omron logo is written in the same font as my press, so i guess somewhere down the line they did make heat presses – either that or it is a cheap fake!

  • Freddy.Tait

    Member
    May 4, 2006 at 1:32 pm

    i know its not a great help at moment but

    keep your eye out for an
    adkins t shirt press and you wont go far wrong
    they can take some stick
    and spares available in u.k.
    they are in leicester
    a adkins & sons ltd

    all the best freddy
    in sunny scarborough

  • biddwiser

    Member
    May 4, 2006 at 1:39 pm

    Thanks, Freddy. I will bear that in mind for the future. However I think mine is OK now, thanks to all the help I got on this forum.

  • Jason Bagladi

    Member
    May 7, 2006 at 6:35 pm

    You will find that the ‘OMRON’ bit is the heat controller or the timer. OMRON do not make heat presses.
    Try using a softer silicon foam to press on to rather than the harder on supplied with the Chinese presses. Will cost about £40 but well worth the money.

    Jase

  • SubtleTease

    Member
    May 26, 2006 at 3:42 pm

    Hey there…

    I’m in the same situation as you with regard to cheap china heat presses… the moral of the story I’ve discovered, is this: Don’t buy heat presses on eBay!!!

    I’ve had a cheap china press for about a year now, and it’s not TOO bad… I find that I have to use a higher temp. than advised, and press for longer… also I’ve discovered that the pressure is most important… I try to make it as heavy as possible for best results… Careful though, with those presses, if you twist the pressure knob too much, it can literally pop back up and hit you in the face… you have been warned.

    So I’m getting an Adkins press in the next week or two…
    No matter how much I play around with the china press, I simply can’t get really intricate shapes to stick…

    BTW – xPres… SuperFlex is far superior to EasyCut, in my experience.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    May 26, 2006 at 5:00 pm

    If you’re getting another press check out the Jarin/Europa-leisure HF4500 machine with interchangeable base and teflon coated platten. Tel: 01376 517717 – great press, great service.
    Alan D

  • Lorraine Clinch

    Member
    May 27, 2006 at 9:29 am

    I bought my T-shirt press off Ebay, but it came from America, and it is GREAT. I also bought a hat press off Ebay, from China, and it is CR*P.

    Moral is, don’t buy Chinese.

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