Halogen Mug Ovens

[Andrew Bennett]

What a great explanaiition Jeremy.
Got any pictures of the oven please.
I want one…Are they expensive?

[Martin Pearson]

Andrew, I was interested as well and found this with a google search, not sure if it is any good but someone who knows might comment.

http://www.thetransferpress.co.uk/acata … ovens.html

[Jeremy Howes]

Hello Andrew and Martin,

Yes, that’s the one I use and I also buy from The Transfer Press, very nice people to deal with.

You can also view the oven in action on the JML website

Cheers
Jeremy

[Andrew Bennett]

Thanks for that Jeremy,
Is the extension ring worth while do you think?

[Jeremy Howes]

Hi Andrew,
I’ve not used one, so cannot comment, four at a time is about right for the way I work.

Cheers
Jeremy

[Earl Smith]

Sorry, I cant find the web site for JML . Could somebody post it please? Looked in toolbar too.
Earl

[Jeremy Howes]

Hello Earl,
http://www.jmldirect.com

Jeremy

[Stephen Henderson]

Okay Jeremy, are we talking of using this oven for cooking lunch, and then when you need to sub, just throw in 4 mugs and heat till ready, well on the website it is full of grub !! is it the same oven ?, I have a picture of the one on the web site, but I don’t know how to upload it sorry, and if it is the same one WELL DONE MATE Im into one of those :lol1:

[Jeremy Howes]

Hello Stevie,

If it looks like an execution chamber for Goldfish then you’ve got the right one.

Cheers
Jeremy

[Andrew Bennett]

where do you get the wraps from please Jeremy, is it xpres?

[Jeremy Howes]

Hi Andrew,
I bought my wraps from http://www.thetransferpress.co.uk , these were the best on the market at the time, stainless steel construction including the lever mechanism.
It might be worth your while having a word with Graeme at TTP who I’m sure would explain better, I’ve just noticed that there are no images on the wraps page of their website.

I hope this helps

Jeremy

[Andrew Bennett]

Thanks I’ll do that Jeremy.

[Michael Potter]

Thanks for this thread Jeremy. Our mug press just got flooded by rain and we may be looking for a new press. We have several wraps but never thought of one of these ovens.
Thanks heaps
Mike

[Neil Speirs]

You couldn’t have posted this topic at a better time Jeremy, Just got a school order for approx 500 mugs today & I’ve got one of these ovens that’s sat unused for the last 2 years 🙄

It came with 4 wraps but I’m guessing you really need another 4 to get the most out of it, 4 baking & 4 cooling? How long does it normally take for the wraps to cool down to handle once out the oven?

Any tips to share when using one….. can you squeeze a pastie in with the 4 wraps (?) 😉

[Jeremy Howes]

Hi Neil,

Eight wraps is the ideal method, 4 in 4 out, I wear heat proof gauntlets when handling the mugs/wraps as they can remain very hot for quite a time….I personally would have 500 mugs printed for me by someone like Listawood and just mark up a profit, or… add another oven!.

Cheers

Jeremy

[Neil Speirs]

All the kids individual artwork so gotta do them myself….keeps me out the pub I suppose 🙄

[Andrew Bennett]

Will you not need the pub for inspiraton 😀

[Stephen Henderson]

Neil. you just gave me an great idea for the kids at school, should explain the wife is the chair of the PTA and we are always looking for fund raisers thw kids own prints on mugs will go down well, cheers
Now then !! Jeremy how much do the wraps cost, I have two mug presses at present, and I am into this Halogen lamp idea, great time saver :lol1:

[Jeremy Howes]

Hi Stevie,
I’m only suggesting this company because it’s the one that I use (there are other companies that sell these)

Go to http://www.thetransferpress.co.uk

Dye Sublimation > Imprintables > Mug ovens and wraps

There you will find an assortment of wraps for different size mugs.

I hope this helps

Best regards
Jeremy

[Stephen Henderson]

Thanks Jeremy

[Andrew Bennett]

Hi Jeremy,
with the mug wrap, I realise that it goes round under the hand to give an image that has total coverage but….
I have seen some mugs for sale where the outside of the handle has been printed on, do you know if this is possible with the wrap please?

[Jeremy Howes]

Hi Andrew,

In short, the answer is no, however, there is no reason why the handle cannot be printed as long as it’s been coated and flat enough to receive the print, how you would successfully do this I haven’t a clue, perhaps the mugs that you mentioned were printed using a water slide transfer technique.
I have heard, but never tried, that it is also possible to print to the base of the mug using a small bag of sand to keep the transfer paper in place, this would take some trials and again the base would have to coated but it would be a great way of putting on your details.

IHTH

Cheers
Jeremy

[Gordon Galloway]

There is a mug press available that will let you do handles and bottoms, I’ve tried the bag of sand technique, but with little success.

Gordon

[Andrew Bennett]

Can you point me to a web site where I can see one at all please Gordon?

[Gordon Galloway]

http://domglobal.net/index.php?main_pag … ucts_id=32

[Neil Speirs]

Having purchased from the above company before the phrase "You get what you pay for" comes to mind 😕

[Andrew Bennett]

Any others then 😀

[Tracey Little]

Hi Guys…I got my oven a few months ago…well rather relegated the one I use at home for cooking food and got a new Flavourwave for home!!

Its a brill way to do mugs but you can also get wraps so you can do Ceramic money boxes…Cookie Jars and 2 sizes of pet/sweet bowls.

I got my wraps from Merlin Transfers in Southend…think from memory the wraps are about a tenner each.

[Andrew Bennett]

so do you need the wraps for the halogen oven please?

Sorry, must have been having a senior moment 😮
I think you meant you can ALSO get wraps for other objects (?)

[mbroad]

There are many different wraps available, for dog bowls, cat bowls, oversize mugs, cookie jars etc.

[John Cooper]

What temperature and time settings do you use in the JML oven?

John

[Tracey Little]

from memory….

1 mug 12 mins
2 mugs 14 mins
3 mugs 16 mins
4 mugs 18 mins

[Jeremy Howes]

As a side note, It really is worth calibrating the oven to 200 deg C, this can be done by using a ‘Tala’ or equivalent oven thermometer which has been tested using a MiniTemp.

Cheers
Jeremy

[Earl Smith]

Jeremy,
I have ordered one of these ovens from JML just after this thread started. It still hasnt come. How long does delivery normally take??
Lots of mugs to do for xmas and need to get started.
Thanks for this tip by the way.
Earl.

[Jeremy Howes]

Hello Earl,
Mine took about 3 working days, but you will have to take this up with customer services at JML who should be able to track the parcel.

Jeremy

[Earl Smith]

I knew as soon as I posted that it would turn up, and it did . Think the wife will want it at home…..
Now to go and have a play. Thanks.
Earl.

[Jeremy Howes]

Strangely enough, that’s the exact feeling I had when I typed the reply.

Enjoy.

Jeremy

[Earl Smith]

Over the last 2 days Ive had a good play with it. ( The oven)..I also bought the extension piece but the oven doesnt stay hot enough when that is in place. 5 mugs in and 18 mins and all are cooked.
I bought one wrap for each size mug but then tried it without the wrap . When the transfer is tightly wrapped on the mug the result was the same or better as the heat comes directly to the mug . Must wrap the entire mug or the mug is discoloured near the handle.
Good talking point in the shop too when it is working.
So I must say thanks Jeremy for this thread, saving me a lot of time.
Sadly the goldfish dont like it very much.
Earl

[Neil Speirs]

quote Earl Smith:

I bought one wrap for each size mug but then tried it without the wrap . When the transfer is tightly wrapped on the mug the result was the same or better as the heat comes directly to the mug . Must wrap the entire mug or the mug is discoloured near the handle.

Mmmmm, need to give this a try. r u cutting down the baking time when doing it this way?

[Earl Smith]

I am doing 5 of the 10oz mugs for 18 mins. The temp gauge which I stand inside reads around 190c. The oven is set at 235c . Only problem I had was when the fan in the oven blows directly on the mug and pulls the paper away from the mug. I stand the mugs on the outside with the handle pointing to the middle and the mugs aren’t touching. My heat resistant tape is a little stretchy and helps to pull the paper onto the mug.
Works brilliantly for me . Makes mug printing much faster as I can use the mug press at the same time and do 10 mugs in 20 mins.
Sorry, rambling on….
Earl.

[cryman]

hi im going to try the oven method mentioned here can i ask here, for example for one mug with silicon wrap and the oven preheated up to 200 deg C put mug in the oven the start countdown from 12 mins? mind i would use my multimeter
temp gauge for exact temp. the other thing can i really just put a mug in the oven without a wrap providing i tape along the end print paper on to the mug to prevent blowouts would that work? any info on this thanks

[John Parfit]

quote Earl Smith:

I bought one wrap for each size mug but then tried it without the wrap . When the transfer is tightly wrapped on the mug the result was the same or better as the heat comes directly to the mug . Must wrap the entire mug or the mug is discoloured near the handle.

Earl

Hello Earl

Good advice and also from the other members too.

I am unused to sub printing. Could you please tell me what you mean by wrapping the entire mug; is there a special wrapping material to use or do you mean wrapping the entire mug in the blue heat resistant tape; surely that would be a pretty expensive way to do it so I presume I am not understanding something here.

Thank you

John

[John Parfit]

Oh, forgot to mention that the JMC ovens are available from Argos at £49 but I noticed that a similar oven at 12 litres (JMC 9.5 litres) is available from Argos too at same price so I have ordered that, should fit more mugs in I expect.

John

[Earl Smith]

What I mean about wrapping the whole mug is to cover every part of the mug with the transfer paper. Ie; above, below and in between the handle as well. The way to do this is to make the transfer the same length as the circumference as the mug. What you must do is ensure the transfer is taped very tight to the mug or you will get outgassing and a messy result.
Hope this helps.
Earl

[cryman]

[quote="Earl Smith"]What I mean about wrapping the whole mug is to cover every part of the mug with the transfer paper. Ie; above, below and in between the handle as well. The way to do this is to make the transfer the same length as the circumference as the mug. What you must do is ensure the transfer is taped very tight to the mug or you will get outgassing and a messy result.
Hope this helps.
Earl[/quote]
thanks for the info is there any chance you can show example of your method of wrapping mug for example an pic if not to much to ask 🙂
and thanks again for info by the way how long would you time just for one mug?
thanks

[Alan Nisbet]

I am very interested in one of these ovens to do my mugs in, I spotted one at Watt Brothers in Hamilton for £39.99 and it’s a 12 litre.

Has anyone got anything bad to say about them?

[Daniel Evans]

Thanks so much for this.

I am just about to buy the equipment to get started on printing on mugs etc and this oven will do perfectly, decided to go with the bigger argos version 12L and they have one in stock so i’ll pop and get that when it opens.

I’ve red this whole post twice now and i’m not sure if i’m missing something but how do i wrap the mugs, dog bowls, those silver coffee cup things etc so that the transfer paper stays on, also… where is the best place to buy it?

Thanks guys

Just need to find all the other equipment now printer, heat press etc etc etc

[Lorraine Clinch]

Makro have been sellng the JML ovens all year, at £40 +vat, but have also been at £30 and £20 at sale times. May be worth a look if you can get hold of a card.

Lorraine

[Ian Pople]

http://products.makro.co.uk/epages/Makr … cts/315866

[Lorraine Clinch]

quote Lorraine Clinch:

Makro have been sellng the JML ovens all year, at £40 +vat, but have also been at £30 and £20 at sale times. May be worth a look if you can get hold of a card.

Lorraine

Further to Ians link, I got this in my email yesterday, ‘Prolectrix’ oven £19.99 +vat

http://store.makro.co.uk/g-12-Deals-of-the-Week.aspx?

Lorraine

[Andrew Bennett]

I am going to have to re read all six pages 😀

Is there such a thing as a glazing product to re paint onto the mugs after mucking about with them which is then baked to recreate the original finish or is that unnecessary?

[Jason Davies]

Will this do the trick:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Flavorwave-Oven … =de_a_smtd

[Alan Nisbet]

Having purchased a 12 litre Halogen Oven from Watt Brothers I am waiting on one Mug Wrap from TTP.

What I am curious about is the Heat and timer settings for One Mug, 2 Mugs, 3 and 4 Mugs. Can anyone post there successful settings please.

The reason I have gone for the Halogen oven is because my glass mug handles are too wide for my mug press and I don’t get a tight fit round the mug which results in a poor finish. Has anyone done a Glass Mug in a halogen oven?

PS, I want to try one mug wrap before I purchase anymore, I’m looking forward to trying this out.

Thank You.

Alan

[Mo Gillis-Coates]

just my 2 penneth… in a press I can do around 30 mugs an hour… just finished running a job lot out for a company of 300, took me total 5 hours using 2 presses with a great system..

while the mug is heating i prep the next two and so on …..

works out about £70 an hour profit if you do it right

[Mo Gillis-Coates]

just my 2 penneth… in a press I can do around 30 mugs an hour… just finished running a job lot out for a company of 300, took me total 5 hours using 2 presses with a great system..

while the mug is heating i prep the next two and so on …..

works out about £70 an hour profit if you do it right

[Daniel Evans]

Wow not as easy as it sounds

Attempt 1
I did not use a wrap, i’m still waiting on those getting delivered, i used masking tape instead. Put in oven for 12 minutes at 250c on oven, tala oven thermometer reads 210c (Robert Dyers if anyone interested £3.49) Placed mug on the outside with handle facing inwards.

12 minutes later, went back to mug, paper is flapping from air flow, took it out and placed into a bucket of room temp water, mug sizzled and then cracked, the image on the mug is blurry also, any tips?

[Earl Smith]

Dont use masking tape, use heat resistant tape. Wrap very tightly and cover the whole mug. ( not the handle). The tape is slightly elastic so use a long length and pull the transfer tight to the mug, tape above, through and below handle. Bake for 15 to 20 mins at 225c. When you drop it into the water afterwards, do it quickly , inside and out, so the whole mug gets an even temp change. Drop it in slowly and it will crack.
A wrap works better but its a bugger to use when hot.
Dont use cheap mugs, they are a false economy. You will ruin more than you save.
Thats what I do and it works. But I only use the oven when I have more than 20 mugs to do, otherwise I use my mug press.
Good luck.

[Daniel Evans]

Thanks a lot Earl

I dipped it into the water slowly last time, so i’ll just drop the whole thing in quickly for the 2nd attempt.
I’ll use the heat resistant tape and i’ll try again shortly, i’ll let you know how i get on

[John Gregson]

Have the water hotter or just cool with a fan set to cold – I never use water anymore due to glaze cracking problems.

Cheers John

[Alan Nisbet]

I never had a cracked mug when I used Tams, when my last batch was used up I sourced mugs from different UK suppliers and then I started getting cracked mugs. I now use xpres mugs and dip them in luke warm water fast, no cracked mugs so far.

Are the settings for one mug the same as 4 mugs in the halogen oven?

Sorry

I somehow over looked Tracey Little’s post:

quote :

from memory….

1 mug 12 mins
2 mugs 14 mins
3 mugs 16 mins
4 mugs 18 mins

Alan