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Grafityp tshirt vinyl is it the same as xpres call flexi cut
Posted by Steve Underhill on December 7, 2007 at 5:17 pmQuestion for Nigel.
I have just received 3 metres of your T shirt vinyl, and it isnt what I usually use (xpres superflex)
It is the same material as xpres call flexi cut, backing is not sticky at all not even slightly so if you weed off a letter it stays off.
It’s easier to pull off the sheet, but harder to get the weeding tool into compared to super flex flex, etc etc.
My question is do you do an equivalent, as this stuff isn’t what I am after.
Superflex is very stretchy, more so than this, a lot thinner and easier to weed and has a slightly sticky backing you can press back onto, if a graphic lifts at all.
Im not talking about ultra/dura cut by the way, that has an extremely sticky backing and is ultra tough.
I hope you do this as your prices are way better than xpres.
Thanks
SteveSteve Underhill replied 16 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 17 Replies -
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Steve I will get several samples out to you on Monday, have a play and see which on suits.
Regards
Nigel -
Ok thanks,
Its just that different companies have different names for stuff, and what one person is used to is not the same as the next guy, Ive pretty much every kind of T shirt vinyl and they all have their uses but for what I do the superflex is by far the best for speed of weeding and application
Thanks Nigel for the quick reply.
Steve -
Hi Nigel, Could you email me a price list of all your t’shirt vinyl. At present, like Steve, I use only Xpres – Ultra cut / Super Flex so anything that is equivalent to these will be fine. Sample would be nice too! :lol1:
Cheers John -
A 100 metre sample of all colours and each vinyl in the swatch
ThanksIm just pressing 24 hoodies with the vinyl I had, its nice stuff just liek the flexi cut so happy with it, but for extremely fine detail it wouldnt weed as good as superflex thats for certain, and I do end up weeding some ridiculous designs because screen printing small amounts like 2 shirts isnt viable,
this vinyl will be just fine for bigger stuff though. -
any one know a printable media for the versa camm for t shirts, one with a sticky backing, used xpress, but too thick and not sticky, as in magic touch
any ideas?
Ian -
I’ll have the same sample order as Steve please but not as greedy – please just send 50m of each colour in the swatch. :lol1:
Cheers John
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Slightly off topic but you guys in this thread are the right people to ask.
I recently did 6 shirts and 2 sweats (all black) with light blue and white lettering and now my company name and logo has changed and want to save the shirts and sweats.
Can I put a solid piece of black over the current blue and white lettering and then put my new lettering on top of that, effectively there will be 3 layers of vinyl 😕
Is this possible or do I have to use these as rags 😥
If yes what do you recommend, I originally used Targets Cad-Cut Premium.
Any help appreciated.
Cheers
Warren
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Hi Warren,
Steve’s the best person to ask as I mainly specialise in screenprinting. I do little bit of heat press work but don’t have the knowledge Steve has on this subject.If they were mine I would bin them as you are always going to get the image coming through and would not be a good advert for your co.
Cheers John
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Transfer remover spray £6 from xpres, spray it on, peel it off and then spray a bit extra on and rub the T shirt together against itself to dissolve any residue of glue.
Then just press another one on.
I need to get another can actually as I just had a few shirts form somebody else’s customer that needed changing.
The spray is magic I tell you, you spray it on it wrinkles up like a slug when you put salt on it, but if you have a mishap and need NOT to have wrinkly flex and would like it back on the shirt all nice and lovely again, just press it.
It goes back as it was, very strange.
Havent seen the spray anywhere else but its £6 and lasts ages unless you make a lot of mistakes.Im not sure of the chemicals in it, but it smells exactly like tippex thinner, if you can still get that stuff Im going to try it, it may work in an emergency.
not very economical compared to a half litre of aerosol but might just get you out of a tight spot. -
I’ve never heard of this spray – but then again, I don’t make mistakes. :lol1: 😉
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Its extremely difficult to make a mistake with flex, but if you press a bit of it and see a bit you didnt weed, or a loose bit strayed onto the shirt you didnt notice etc, its a quick remedy.
Unfortunately wont work on plastiol. :lol1:
However you have a spot cleaner for that i assume -
Hi Steve,
I’ve never used a spot cleaner, been doing t’shirts over 20 years know and never had the need for one. I do here they are quite good though!. If I ever get small ink marks on the shirts I use a small amount of MEK – smells great – gets you high as a kite and its also excellent for cleaning all types of ink off squeegies.Cheers John
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Whats MEK John?
might have heard of it but the acronym doest ring a bell. -
Methyl – Ethyl – Ketone. (MEK ) Its used as fast drying blanket/roller wash for litho printers.
When I was an apprentice I worked at a printers that had both a screen and litho operation. We used to wash the squeegies off at the end of each run with screenwash. One day I ran out of screenwash and one of the litho printers suggested using MEK. Used it ever since.
Its also great for taking plastisol ink off a screen as it leaves no residue. So if you are keeping the stencil on the screen for a long time a quick wash of the stencil with MEK and it looks like the screens never been used.
It is very fast drying but quite aggresive so don’t rub the stencil hard with it and what ever you do don’t wash a full screen off with it. It will melt the glue on the wood/metal frame.
You can buy this stuff from litho supplies. 10L container
Cheers John
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Nice one.
If we start this contract next year we will need something like that for the screens, I currently use white spirit and then degrease with meths
Cheers
steve -
I have used the thinner version of Grafiflex from Grafityp but found it almost impossible to peel off the tape without breaking the design. Tried both hot and cold peel.
Standard Grififlex is brilliant but a bit too thick. -
That’s what I got sent, the standard grafiflex is what xpres call flexi cut, backing is not sticky at all, unlike superflex, and if a letter comes off or part of a design etc you cant tack it back, The only material suitable for hot peel is ultracut/duracut, the one with the very sticky backing which is also a thicker material.
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