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  • got another fitting question with glass etch?

    Posted by Paul Goodwin on June 30, 2004 at 3:16 pm

    Hi all
    On Friday i have to fit etch glass vinyl to a shop window, the customer just wants a band going through it so it shouldn’t (hopefully be a problem)
    It’s to be 13ft long by 22" high ( a whole roll width)
    The 2 questions i have are

    1. As the customer wants the etch to go down to the window sill and thats bowed and uneven , is it better to tell them they should leave a gap, or trim it in.

    2. if i trim it in how will i hinge it as at the bottom there will be a crease where it goes around the return.

    I think on a job this size i’m going to attempt it wet using Overlay.

    any and all advise given will be received with thanks in my time of stress 🙂

    Paul Goodwin replied 19 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    June 30, 2004 at 3:32 pm

    Mort
    beware you say a whole roll width, if you are going to rely on the cut edge from the supplier you may be in for a shock. May look o.k on the roll but when its on a window in front of you it may look a lot different, it does depend on the company who’s split the roll but just take this as a word of caution. However you could make sure you use this edge to the sill and just trim into sill, because unless you leave a serious gap 3″ plus it will just look ****. Hope this helps

    Kev[/quote]

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    June 30, 2004 at 3:49 pm

    Thanks Kev , it did cross my mind on how accurate the cut would be, i think i’ll run it through my cutter and square it off (make sure it tracks straight first )

    I think i want a big gap , i’ll just have to talk them into it 🙂

  • John Harding

    Member
    June 30, 2004 at 9:16 pm

    Mort – I did a similar one a couple of days ago, got a stabilo pencil and level to mark where the top edge would be and taped the whole thing in position using little bits of tape along the top edge.
    Then as i am right handed – I like going right to left, did a big vertical hinge about two feet in from the right hand edge, peel back the first bit of backing paper from the vinyl to the right of the hinge and stuck it down, then take the hinge off roll the vinyl back up from the left leaving all the little bits of tape on the glass as a guide and you can then work accross at your own pace – single handed – no probs – I just used water for this one, does that make sense or have I rambled!!! 🙂

  • John Harding

    Member
    June 30, 2004 at 9:18 pm

    Forgot to add leave some over at the bottom press into the bottom return and trim up for a nice finish 😳

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    June 30, 2004 at 10:02 pm

    That makes perfect sence

    Thanks John

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    June 30, 2004 at 11:16 pm

    johns tip is good mate… when working alone it is always best to get it taped into position if it is large. that way it leaves your hands free to cope with any niggles that may come along.

    if you cant get that length to run through your machine straight its maybe an idea to cut it by knife and steel ruler. flip the vinyl over and cut with the grid on the reverse. always cut longer than you actually need.
    cutting by hand isn’t that hard but best to always cut using a long straight edge. any small imperfection are harder to see over the Length.

    i must say, if i can get away with it i trim back from window edge 5mm all round. sometimes the customer asks for it tight, butted up. but i do my best to advise not to.
    if you apply it wet this is(in my view) important. it helps expel the water easier than tight up as it gets trapped and creeps back under.
    doing it dry isn’t a problem. what is, is condensation running round the window edge, builds up at the bottom. any bits of vinyl tacking to rubber seal or putty gets minging dirty, the vinyl gets brittle and can look a little scabby over time. trimming back always looks neater on the outside too..

    one thing to always remember, especially with windows. clean the area you are fitting to and a minimum of 12inches out-with that too.. more if you can. always regimentaly clean the window sill!
    the reason i say is, dry or wet, as you peel out the paper from behind you generate static. next thing to happen is any tiny particles of dust jump from the window sill up under the vinyl.
    sooo.. what i do is wipe everything down as i said. then take a damp cloth and wipe over the sill but don’t dry it..

    hope this helps some… 😉

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    July 1, 2004 at 7:13 am

    Helps a great deal thanks Rob

  • Lee Attewell

    Member
    July 1, 2004 at 7:45 am

    Just a quickie from me Mort,

    If you’re applying wet, make sure the edges of the frame are really clean. I mean the join where the glass actually goes into the frame. What can happen is the water tension will pull dirt up from inside this gap. It might even be worthwhile to give this edge a bit of a vacuum with a tight nozzle.

    If the glass is held in place with putty, you’ll almost certainly have to have a gap. What you can come up with is “putty slime” Not something to do with ghost busters, but an oily residue that gets pulled under the film like the dirt as above.

    As another thought. Is there any way this job can have panels with say a 10 mm gap between panels? It’ll be easier to fit, and will look quite decorative.

    Just a suggestion mate.

    Lee

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    July 1, 2004 at 8:57 am

    Morning Leeroy,

    Thanks for that tip , the panels are held in by putty so i will need a gap afterall 🙂

    I have tried to get them to have the glass done in strips vert and horizontal, with the logo in it all sorts, they are ademant that they want the window just blanked out 🙁

    I’m going to take me camera with me tomorrow and my friends son to help , so hopefully i’ll have soem pics to show while doing it, so i can post them and hopefully be told where i go/wnet wrong (if at all of course 🙂 )

    Thanks Again

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