Google ranking offers

[Robert Lambie]

keep away from them mate… there are many ways to do this but nobody can guarantee you a position. if they could gaurantee it the company would be worth a fortune…
try goggling relevant searches for that company. See if they are on page one of every search? if they were so successful i doubt they would be pestering you cold calling.

[Warren Beard]

unless it is a sponsored listing then stay away (the top highlighted or right hand side listings) I used to have a sponsored listing and was not too bad although was costing me £100/month, I now just try my best to stay on the first page with natural listings which is the best and free.

cheers

Warren

[David Rowland]

problem is… its very national based a lot of these google/live advertising blocks…. so i could be bidding against u lot lol

[David Rogers]

Agree with what’s been said – pay for nothing!

First page rankings aren’t difficult to get with a few choice key words & free submissions to various sites.

Google & Yahoo also do free website submissions (to ensure your site is included in their ‘indexing’).

Google MAPS also do a free link direct for your business.

If your website provider doesn’t offer SEO (search engine optimisation) and you feel ‘handy’ at altering tiny little bits of your website code yourself to add a few ‘bits and pieces’.

Web rankings almost defy logic at times, there’s no set formula.

It’s taken me years – but for the last year I’ve been ranked #1 in Google’s natural listings for ‘signs’ and ‘my location’ – even the ‘feeling lucky’ tab…not spent a penny…no guarantee I’ll be there forever, but it HAS helped drive traffic to me from further afield for local sub-contract work.

Dave

[David Rowland]

well just given the game away Dave 😕

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[John Harding]

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well just given the game away Dave

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Thanks 😀

Dont worry im not in your area

[Peter Normington]

Type "signs" in google and see who/what comes up
type your company name, and see what you get,
type your real name and compare,
Then type Rob Lambie…..just for fun

Peter

[Kyle Bennett]

quote Dave Rowland:

problem is… its very national based a lot of these google/live advertising blocks…. so i could be bidding against u lot lol

It doesn’t have to be, with Google Adwords you can select if you want the ads to show only with an X mile radius of your location, that way you’re only advertising to relevant people

I do highly recommend everyone has Google Analytics installed though, VERY comprehensive web statistics package which is a must for tracking keywords and performance

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[David Rowland]

yeah i know… but i turned that bit off.

Most internet connections are coming out of london, kinda defeats it really

[Kyle Bennett]

quote Dave Rowland:

yeah i know… but i turned that bit off.

Most internet connections are coming out of london, kinda defeats it really

Always seemed accurate to me, and turning it off costs you more money as nation wide people are clicking your adverts and wont be interested when they realise you’re not local.

Still, I’m not a massive fan of PPC campaigns, I prefer working on getting natural rankings as they dont instantly stop the minute you’re budget runs out for the month

[David Rowland]

here u go
Same ISP, but my office is 12 miles away

Office (static IP) says it is spot on
My home (dynamic ip) thinks im in Stafford, which im no-where near

http://whatismyipaddress.com/

so as u can see, we can be anywhere

[Kyle Bennett]

quote Dave Rowland:

here u go
Same ISP, but my office is 12 miles away

Office (static IP) says it is spot on
My home (dynamic ip) thinks im in Stafford, which im no-where near

http://whatismyipaddress.com/

so as u can see, we can be anywhere

I’m not denying it’s not always correct, but different programs do trace locations differently – I’ve had mine show me 3 separate results from 3 separate websites, but at the same time I think it’s quite short sighted to believe that because some cheap websites tells us something like this, it means Google must be the same.

Google relys on Adwords for $16.4 billion revenue, I think they’ve invested a little of that in making it’s Geotargetting as accurate as possible don’t you?

But my main point anyway, was I find turning it off in Adwords isn’t a wise move for campaigns using broad keywords targetted locally as you end up with a lot of wasted clicks and wasted money. Afterall the aim isn’t to boost the amount of visitors to your website, it’s to boost the amount of visitors that lead to sales.

[David Rowland]

well i just showing u that county based programs cannot work for everyone, the only way they can work is if you register a cookie and then use that with a website with embedded code (like a tracking cookie) or if an IP is correctly registered for its location (which our office seems to be). As most of the people dial up on dynamic IP’s then they could be anywhere and this is also a problem with the governments plans to control the internet, dynamic IP’s make it unworkable. So your audience could be as much as 50% hit and miss to me in a local area, although in America or places where IP’s are fixed, then I would expect them to be precise. Wont be long until our governement fix IP’s and then we will be ‘big brothered’

[John Singh]

So as I see it:

In brief as David Rogers says its down to your own web page
Only if you allow these guys to enter and alter your web page directly with key words will it be effective

[Kyle Bennett]

quote John Singh:

So as I see it:

In brief as David Rogers says its down to your own web page
Only if you allow these guys to enter and alter your web page directly with key words will it be effective

Not entirely, "these" guys are normally cold calling money grabbing w***ers who’ll do nothing but take your money and run.

But anyway, the on-page SEO is generally content written for keywords and better coding – good web designers working to modern standards should do this all for you included in the price as it’s as simple as planning and coding the website properly. Content it depends if it’s written for you or by yourself, but as a matter of habbit I usually check over content written for my by clients just to tell them if they can drop the odd keywords in everynow and then

Off page is building links to your site from others, which helps boost your rankings – these you can do yourself in your spare time easily, forum signature links are a prime example, have a link pointing to your website saying "Signage Location" and various other keywords you want to target, spread over multiple sites (i.e forums you visit, local web directories, contact manufacturer’s as some list dealers etc).

Generally link building can cost nothing but your time, but I sometimes use these guys – http://www.submitedge.com/ for clients sites when they have neither the time or knowledge to do it themselves

(Please be aware that signature links may be against the rules on this particular forum, I am only pointing this out as I don’t want another post deleted LOL)[/code]

[BrianBrian]

Try Looking into getting to the top of google the organic way, this is what we’re doin it takes a long time but it is free.

You need to make asmany links as you can and do things like chating on forums as that will help your seach rank. Make sure you put your web address at the end of each thing you say.

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[Robert Lambie]

not here you can’t Brian and it doesn’t work that simple anyway… 🙄

[Kyle Bennett]

quote BrianBrian:

Try Looking into getting to the top of google the organic way, this is what we’re doin it takes a long time but it is free.

You need to make asmany links as you can and do things like chating on forums as that will help your seach rank. Make sure you put your web address at the end of each thing you say.

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To be honest good quality content and a well coded site is more than half the battle – I’ve just made our new website and we’re already on the first page of google for nearly all our local keywords after 1 day, and that’s without any link building.

My hardest task is going to be ranking high for the generic keywords for my online store, the local ones are normally easy just from writing good content with the targetted keywords in + titles and h1,h2 tags etc. Of course if local is a bigger city then you’ll require some link building too