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gerber edge users ever had this problem?
hey, i’m having terrible problems with my edge fx printer. basically where you lay down the primer and then print over the top with any colour it won’t print correctly. what happens is the top colour doesn’t lay down perfectly over the white primer so you will see the white primer sticking out and looks like you have done a shadow effect! also, if i use the intense red it will be off slightly to one side, but…if i use ruby red, it will be fine! doesn’t make any sense. i’ve spoken to gerber tech and they said it could be a number of things, clutch, band etc etc. so, anyone else had this or similar problems? if so what was it etc.
thanks all
matt -
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what software are you using?
you need to apply bleed and traps to the overprint, it depends on the length of film left on the roll as to how good the registration isPeter
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hi peter, i was hoping you would reply as i know you have or had an edge so would have some use full advice!! lol i’m using omega 2.1. doesn’t matter where on the roll i try the primer it will always end up doing the same thing! i know about applying bleeds etc however, the gerber tech guy said you shouldn’t have a problem like this if you are putting down a primer. what seems to be happening is, i’m laying down one colour, then when i load the foil in, and it goes to print, its like the foil/cartridge/caddy or whatever isn’t in the exact same place so its printing off to the right or left etc! and for example, if you have an Italian flag, so you have green/white and red, and of course they are all perfectly straight ok, it will lay down the green, it will lay down the white and then lay down the red, but..the red will be a fraction off, it will be either off to the right or slightly down from the other colours!
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Matt.
I lost my gerber a few years ago, and it was the gerber 2 not the fx,
but the primer would still need to be smaller than the overprint,
I cant think why you are having a problem with it, but doubt if its the machine that is at fault, otherwise it would manifest with all colours,could be a dodgy roll of film?
Peter
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Hi Matt, I just put that down to the Edge, for precise printing we use our Rolands. The Edge isn’t accurate enough, doesn’t matter what spandex say.
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quote Jason Davies:Hi Matt, I just put that down to the Edge, for precise printing we use our Rolands. The Edge isn’t accurate enough, doesn’t matter what spandex say.
But you cant lay white down first 😀
Peter
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No, which is why we kept our Edge, why can’t you lay the white down with bleed and then profile cut later – if you can be that accurate with the edge??
😉 😉
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yeah, this is why i’m looking at getting a roland to be honest!! the edge is great for certain things, but i have had quite a few problems with it since i’ve had it now going on 3/4 years. gerber tech say its the edge at fault, but have given me a list to what it could be! hence my question to see if any other fx users have come across this problem. i know a guy who has the same set up as me, he can lay down the white primer, overlay any colour perfect everytime!
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Have you tried the Edge Talk forum?
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hi peter, i tried registering on that forum but you have to wait for the administrator to email you and they never did, i tried twice infact! maybe third time a charm??
so, no edge fx users on here ever had any similar problems then?? maybe its just my machine?????? -
quote Matt Boyd:hi peter, i tried registering on that forum but you have to wait for the administrator to email you and they never did, i tried twice infact! maybe third time a charm??
so, no edge fx users on here ever had any similar problems then?? maybe its just my machine??????Hi Matt,
As Peter says….are the foils of simular lengths? if not this is quite normal on any edge, whether it be I, II or FX. Using genuine Gerber foils seams to help but it’s by no means perfect.
I suspect there’s nothing wrong with the machine, it’s just one of those things you have to put up with as an Edge user!!
Cheers,
Phil -
hi phil, just seems to be that no matter what length the foil is it will do it. for some reason which baffels me is, i can load in the intense red foil and it will not lay down the colour correct it will always be off slightly, but i can load the ruby red for example and it will be ok. however, laying down the white primer, no matter what colour or how long the foil is, it will not ever lay down over the top of the primer with any colour. you always see the primer sticking out which looks like you have a shadow effect! very annoying! the gerber tech guy seems to thing its the machine, he says their are 2 clutches either side and the grab the foils etc. their is also a band(like you have on a car) he says that could need replacing or it could be something else, that is slightly out of whack. i sent him some samples as they requested and they said it really does look like the machine.
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You’ll probably get diffrent results using diffrent vinyls aswell. I’d guess the results come from the edge using more/less heat to apply the ruby red compared to the intense red, and the vinyl expanding due to the heat needed for the foil to stick. The Edge is a great little machine, but it does have it’s problems/faults/quirks. The registration of multiple colors being the worst one, IMO.
Just bleed the graphics to "fix" the problem, usually works.
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Hi Matt
Omega 3 may help as they have a new feature that allows you to move the foils very slightly to the left or right.
Is your problem happening at the top and bottom or only on the sides if that makes sense? If it’s only the sides then the length of foil more than likely is the problem. which may also explain the 2 different results with red. As I understand it both foils must have the same length left on the roll.
cheers Mike -
it been about 4 years since I used the Edge. I remember I used to have a problem like that before, if my memory is right you can adjust the heat setting for the primer or it’s the density of the primer this usually sorted that
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quote Matt Boyd:hi peter, i tried registering on that forum but you have to wait for the administrator to email you and they never did, i tried twice infact! maybe third time a charm??Took me more than 6 months to get registered on the Edge forum – I think it might be something to do with vetting!
I’ll post a message there now.
John
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Just had a reply from one of the mods:
If they don’t register with a real then it won’t be approved. Th only names i could see from the last few weeks that registered from GB were aliases or just spam/porn crap.
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