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  • Forum Suggestion – Design Task

    Posted by Phill Fenton on October 3, 2002 at 10:26 pm

    What does everyone think of the idea to have a forum whereby a brief is described for a sign to be designed and submitted by members (similar to the signcraft scenario).

    Someone could post a brief of a typical design task and quotation to be submitted. Those interested can then submit their designs and prices for comparison.

    It doesn’t need to be a competition – just a bit of fun to see what others can come up with given the same brief and allow us all to compare prices and ideas.

    What do you think? ๐Ÿ˜€

    Phill Fenton replied 20 years, 2 months ago 9 Members · 22 Replies
  • 22 Replies
  • Robert Lambie Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 3, 2002 at 10:48 pm

    sounds a good idea phill ๐Ÿ˜€

    ill post the first mock up job and we all can get going…
    the only prob i see is the ones that post first will eather discourage the ones that are about to post or have them alter there prices as they may be way to high or too low…
    i think if we try this in the show us your stuff forum as it would mean me creating a new upload section alos. if it proves popular ill give it a forum of its own…

    does that sound fair..?

    maybe mike could post the second task and then we can see if i do the third then back to mike or whatever…. ๐Ÿ™„

  • Robert Lambie Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 3, 2002 at 11:42 pm

    what about if we post the mock up sign… then mail me it.. ill copy bits from you all and ill win ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

    nah really though… we can do it the way phill has suggested or i can post the mock up job. on say sunday… then you all send me your work and ill post them all on thursday before chat or the folling sunday… gives us plenty time to knock somthing up… ๐Ÿ™„

    then again we could just post it as we always do….

  • Lee Attewell

    Member
    October 3, 2002 at 11:59 pm

    Count me in…

  • Tim Shaw

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 8:41 am

    I’ll have some of that.

    I can forsee one problem, we will need some kind of handicap system
    for Mike. May be he should only get the brief with 20 minutes to spare.

    Or we limit him to using only black and white vinyl.

  • Tim Shaw

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 8:44 am

    I’ll have some of that.

    I can forsee one problem, we will need some kind of handicap system
    for Mike. May be he should only get the brief with 20 minutes to spare.

    Or we limit him to using only black and white vinyl.

  • Lee Attewell

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 8:56 am

    Mike’s gotta do it blind folded. I’ve been looking at some of his work. Man he’s scary.

  • signscript

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 9:30 am

    here here!! good idea that man, just dont do a design brief for a banner coz rob will just moan about my prices again !! lol ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Robert Lambie Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 9:42 am

    ๐Ÿ™„ what? me? when? where? ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†
    im saying nothing kev ๐Ÿ˜‰

    ill put my own in like the rest of you… ๐Ÿ˜€

    oh yeh mike has to do his under water in a tank.. with his comp on the outside of the tank… sounds fair to me…. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • signscript

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 9:51 am

    dont forget that he will also be blindfolded, gagged + handcuffed

  • Tim Shaw

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 10:23 am

    And he has to wear a boxing glove on his mouse hand.

  • signscript

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 10:54 am

    and hanging upside down from a meat hook!!

  • signscript

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 10:56 am

    after 24 pints of Batemans XXXB best bitter. then we’ll see whos best !!
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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 11:41 am

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    To summarise then, Mikes handicap would be as follows:-

    Only given twenty minutes to do the design – this after drinking 24 pints of Batemens xxxB. The design to be done in black and white vinyl whilst hanging upside down from a meat hook, wearing a boxing glove in his mouse hand, gagged, blindfolded and handcuffed whilst submerged inside a tank of water.

    Seems fair enough ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

  • Steve Broughton

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 2:16 pm

    Kev, how can you drink that ( oh i swore) (hot) makes you “break wind” something rotten ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
    This sounds like a good idea, i’ll have a go
    Hey whats wrong with the word F A R T its in the dictionary you know, oops sorry forgot Roberts not got one hee hee
    Big Brother is Watching you know!!!!!!!!

  • Tim Shaw

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 4:58 pm

    Martin,

    I think the handicap is still lacking something, Mike can probably overcome all that, what if remove his “sign shed utility belt”.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 5:04 pm

    Better get some Kryptonite as well – Just in case ๐Ÿ˜•

  • Robert Lambie Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 5:58 pm
    quote :

    whilst hanging upside down from a meat hook, wearing a boxing glove , gagged, blindfolded and handcuffed whilst submerged inside a tank of water.

    i swear mike i didnt say a word about your fetish ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

  • Mike Brown

    Member
    October 4, 2002 at 7:18 pm

    …I’m taking this all in ya’ know… ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • signscript

    Member
    October 5, 2002 at 3:33 pm

    we could start a whole new forum on this… what do ya think rob??

  • F. Skierk

    Member
    October 6, 2002 at 7:10 pm

    I would be particularly interested in a forum like this. Im always undercutting myselfโ€ฆ well thatโ€™s what I reckon. Being new you just donโ€™t know what a good or a bad price is. There are so many cowboys out there willing to do it for nothing I feel I have to price jobs low to get them. I know they must be desperate or selling dodgy vinyl but itโ€™s very hard to say this to the customer without sounding desperate. ๐Ÿ™„

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    October 6, 2002 at 10:54 pm

    Sally, if you are having problems pricing jobs you could always get some of your friends to ask for quotes from other local companies. This will give you some idea of where to set your prices. As for doing jobs cheaply you are not doing yourself any favours. If you get a reputation for being really cheap then you will probably only ever attract the type of business you dont really want. Its normally the people who dont want to pay that want the most and are first to complain. They are also generally the hardest to get to pay.
    Its difficult when you first start as you need the work to pay the bills, but believe me I speak from experience. We did a lot of work really cheaply to get work coming in, no one else would have done it at this price other than Jessie James working from his back bedroom, who you will never beat on price because he has no overheads. (no offence to any signmakers called Jessie James !!!).
    The upshot was that we spent ages on artwork, visuals, and applying vinyl all for next to nothing. The people we were doing the work for wouldn’t have worked for the money we were charging them. When we tried to charge a customer a sensible amount for a job we were told we were ripping them off because their neigbour had got a similar job done by us for half the price. We have changed our pricing structure now which was a complete nightmare to begin with, we loose more jobs than we did before but we probably make more money overall.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    October 6, 2002 at 11:38 pm

    Very sound advice from Martin – I’ve been there too.

    It’s very hard to raise prices without losing existing customers after doing low price work. You will also lose jobs from being too cheap as the customer will worry he is getting an inferior job from you.

    I always advise any small business starting out offering a service (as opposed to retailing) not to underprice their work.

    Having said all that – I still do ๐Ÿ˜•