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  • Foamex or Composite for shop front

    Posted by Mike Thornley on June 19, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    We have been asked to quote to produce a shop from signage, which is quite large 44ft x 1m with a curve in the middle, a corner shop. Whats up there at the moment old plywood with old paint and not very level.

    The client also wants stand-off letters on the curved part of the shop front

    We have recommended using composite (coloured) dibond, problem is another company has suggestion using foamex, which the client has got stuck in her head. I have told them the disadvantages of using foamex and we don’t want to do the job using this material as we don’t think its suitable, one of the reasons is we don’t want them coming back complaining in 6 months complaining when the foamex is warping etc

    So opinions please, foamex up the job.

    Kevin Mahoney replied 5 years, 11 months ago 7 Members · 7 Replies
  • 7 Replies
  • Luke Culpin

    Member
    June 19, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    Stick to your guns! What you’ve said is the right thing to say, I wouldn’t do it with foamex either!

  • Alex Crosbie

    Member
    June 19, 2018 at 3:43 pm

    Had a similar job recently, I just told them if they wanted it on foamex then there’s no warranty as it will warp in the warm weather…. let them make their own mind up…. funnily enough they chose to go with aluminium composite in the end!

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    June 19, 2018 at 6:59 pm

    You are correct to object, do NOT use foamex. Composite is the route to take.
    the foam board will rise like puff pastry in the sun and stay that way when the sun goes down.
    It will buckle and look a mess in no time and your tight fist’ed customer will be on the phone to complain.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    June 19, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    Hoarding material (lower grade aluminium composite) is almost as cheap as foamex and will not warp. Alternatively, you could use foamex but would need to fit it using sign trim which allows for expansion and contraction

  • Joe Killeen

    Member
    June 19, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    I had an inquiry from a neighbour for a comppsite sign and he told me I was four times the price of someone else, I could only explain to him the difference between the 0.1 skin and 0.3 on the fabrication panel.
    Turned out the cheap guy was fitting flat panels to the building we were doing folded panel.
    Its amazing if you give your client some knowledge they can ask the right questions and make an informed decision.
    We got the job and an on going customer.
    Never sell your service and knowledge cheap.

  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    June 20, 2018 at 3:25 am

    What is behind the old warped plywood?

  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    June 20, 2018 at 5:52 am
    quote Joe Killeen:

    I had an inquiry from a neighbour for a comppsite sign and he told me I was four times the price of someone else, I could only explain to him the difference between the 0.1 skin and 0.3 on the fabrication panel.
    Turned out the cheap guy was fitting flat panels to the building we were doing folded panel.
    Its amazing if you give your client some knowledge they can ask the right questions and make an informed decision.
    We got the job and an on going customer.
    Never sell your service and knowledge cheap.

    I spend far too much time in an average day trying to explain the differences between what I propose to do for the client as opposed to the ‘cheaper’ quote they had down the road. Far too many customers come in with the attitude of ‘a sign is a sign’.
    You never hear a customer in an Audi showroom griping about how they had a much cheaper quote down the road at Kia.
    What I did was produce a series of images demonstrating all the usual fixing methods & a description of their pros & cons. They soon see why you can’t have an Audi for Kia money.

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