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  • fluorescent yellow vinyl suggestions

    Posted by David Hammond on September 7, 2018 at 11:52 am

    We’ve painted a fairing for a sidecar ( don’t ask how we ended up painting)

    Customer wants some day glow yellow vinyl on it, which isn’t a problem, just not something we use much of.

    What marerial do you suggest?

    A Cast would probably be better, or a decent poly, but ideally not to thick like on the chapter 8 kits, as theres a few curves it is going round.


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    David Hammond replied 4 years, 9 months ago 12 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Chris Windebank

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    September 7, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    oracal do a nice cast but thicker than normal vinyl, maybe worth blagging a sample

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    September 7, 2018 at 5:31 pm
    quote Chris Windebank:

    oracal do a nice cast but thicker than normal vinyl

    as Chris says, i would go this route and its something we use a fair bit of this Oracal too.
    it is thicker than normal cast, and it has a nice gloss finish to it. Not sure what sort of design your applying to that bodywork/shape but i wouldn’t over stretch it. if nothing else i would expect it to whiten of pushed.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    September 7, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    Yes not being stretched, we can cut where needs be, as it only has to look ‘good in the photo’s’ :thumbsup:

    What code is the oracal you recommend?

  • Gil Johnson

    Member
    September 8, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    Oracal 7510

    https://www.orafol.com/gp/europe/en/pro … emium-cast

    Europoint stock it.

    Gil

  • Billy Higgins

    Member
    September 10, 2018 at 1:05 pm

    Hi David

    100% Oracal 6510 Best Stuff Out there.. The 7510 is too thick imho..

    I use the stuff day in day out doing motorsport graphics like the attached image and wouldnt use anything else ever again.

    MDP Supplies stock it..

    Billy


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  • David Hammond

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    September 10, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    Gone with the 7510, which should be more than suitable for what we’re doing.

    Customer can’t wait they’ve seen a photoshop mock up of the design, we’ve just got to turn it into reality. 😆

  • Andy Johnstone EP

    Member
    November 1, 2018 at 2:15 pm
    quote Gil Johnson:

    Oracal 7510

    https://www.orafol.com/gp/europe/en/pro … emium-cast

    Europoint stock it.

    Gil

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  • David Hammond

    Member
    November 1, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    Got some 7510 from Europoint.

    Here’s the finished article out on track.


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  • Joe Killeen

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    November 3, 2018 at 11:41 am

    Very nice job David :claps: :claps:

  • Mike Thornley

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    November 3, 2018 at 5:11 pm

    Is that a sidecar outfit or a boat!!!

    Having done a bit of racing myself, those sidecar lot are mentalists

  • David Hammond

    Member
    November 3, 2018 at 5:49 pm

    No we’re not 😆 Definitely a sidecar was my previous drivers new outfit. So long as it stays behind us I’ll be even happier 😆

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 2, 2019 at 5:57 pm

    Just reading through the threads on fluorescent vinyls, i have a customer looking for this for his signage and shop windows. Vans, tshirts to follow.

    How about the durability? Fluorescents seem to be short term only?

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    August 3, 2019 at 12:00 pm
    quote Martyn Heath:

    Just reading through the threads on fluorescent vinyls, i have a customer looking for this for his signage and shop windows. Vans, tshirts to follow.

    How about the durability? Fluorescents seem to be short term only?

    Yes they are, think the longest you will get is 2 year but beware as many are only 6 months. The oracal that has been mentioned in this threadcomes in a 2 year variety can’t remember the code for it though sorry.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 5, 2019 at 10:22 am

    Having gone through the options i decided for durability the best option was to print my own fluorescent yellow.

    Now is it fluorescent, no but it looks as damn close i could get and the customers happy.

    C6 M0 Y100 K0

    Hope this helps others out

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    August 5, 2019 at 10:42 am

    Oh dear..

    I’m sure your intentions are for the best but I’m afraid your mistaken.

    Fluorescent colours are different from ordinary colours in that they fluoresce. You cannot print these colours. When they talk of limited lifespans with these vinyls it’s the ability to fluoresce that is limited not the vinyl colour itself .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence

  • David Hammond

    Member
    August 5, 2019 at 11:12 am

    The OKI’s can print fluorescent/neon colours, with a spot ink a bit like the white inks are, not sure on the durability or lifespan.

  • Kevin Mahoney

    Member
    August 5, 2019 at 11:31 am

    Back in the day when Subaru was in its heyday, we had a number of customers wanting to replicate the rally livery on their private cars. Lost count of how many times I had to explain that although the material itself would stand up to a couple of years lifespan, the colour itself sadly could not. When that was said, they always came back with “ but that’s what Subaru use”. Then we had to explain that Subaru were replacing the livery as & when it was needed, & cost wasn’t a consideration. Nearly always ended up using an acid yellow from a standard swatch.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 5, 2019 at 12:23 pm
    quote Phill Fenton:

    Oh dear..

    I’m sure your intentions are for the best but I’m afraid your mistaken.

    Fluorescent colours are different from ordinary colours in that they fluoresce. You cannot print these colours. When they talk of limited lifespans with these vinyls it’s the ability to fluoresce that is limited not the vinyl colour itself .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence

    Yes your right phil. It doesnt need to be fluorescent it just needs to be the same colour. Basically safety yellow.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 5, 2019 at 12:29 pm

    Looks damn good to me


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  • Phill Fenton

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    August 5, 2019 at 12:59 pm

    In that case why not simply use a standard bright yellow vinyl that is available – e.g avery primrose yellow or Oracal crocus yellow? Both are similar in colour (though fluorescent yellow has a green hue to it but changes in colour as it ages)?

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 5, 2019 at 1:28 pm
    quote Phill Fenton:

    In that case why not simply use a standard bright yellow vinyl that is available – e.g avery primrose yellow or Oracal crocus yellow? Both are similar in colour (though fluorescent yellow has a green hue to it but changes in colour as it ages)?

    They simply arnt close/good enough. Too yellow.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    August 5, 2019 at 1:45 pm

    Given them too many choices IMHO, and unless really necessary we try and avoid printing a solid colour.

    Show them the swatches, here’s what colours are available, pick one. We don’t show them all the swatched, just the ones that are suitable for the application, then if they’re still not happy, start showing them the more expensive options, as if by magic they’ll find a colour that’s close enough.

    Those who can’t or won’t will happily pay for it :thumbsup:

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