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  • Floor graphics advice on runway effect please?

    Posted by Myles Brewer on October 7, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    Hi All,

    I’m trying to work out the best/most economical way to get this effect on a tiled floor for my customer.

    They basically want an area of tiled floor to look like a runway i.e. dark grey tarmac with white strips & numbers similar to this

    Once the floor is done they will be putting up a gallery style display for people to walk around. It is to be a permanent fixture & will have a high footfall so needs to be very durable. I don’t have exact dimensions yet but something around 5m x 6-8m wouldn’t be too far out. This is the current flooring

    Initially I had thought of just using non slip laminated floor vinyl, but I don’t think it would be durable enough, so I’m now wondering if they might be better to have a flooring company come in to fit a dark grey lino or similar, with suitable edge trim to avoid trip hazard, to which the white bits could then be added either using some sort of vinyl or maybe even painted on?

    Anyone done anything similar to this?

    Robert Lambie replied 7 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • David Hammond

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    James @ Group 101 can print lino type flooring, he did two small roundals for us, that customer was using as a marker for some games.

  • Myles Brewer

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 4:57 pm
    quote David Hammond:

    James @ Group 101 can print lino type flooring, he did two small roundals for us, that customer was using as a marker for some games.

    Thanks David, just had a quick look at their website & looks like that could be the right job, if it would lay well over the floor tiles.

  • Neil Somers

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    Hi Myles,
    Looks like a certain airport.
    If it is I would go with a black or dark grey vinyl flooring over the tiles. A levelling compound would be needed. Or removal of the tiles.

    This is a high traffic area so would need to be very durable.

    Orajet 1633 could go on the vinyl floor.
    Sign and digital do this.

  • Myles Brewer

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 6:07 pm
    quote Neil Somers:

    Hi Myles,
    Looks like a certain airport.
    If it is I would go with a black or dark grey vinyl flooring over the tiles. A levelling compound would be needed. Or removal of the tiles.

    This is a high traffic area so would need to be very durable.

    Orajet 1633 could go on the vinyl floor.
    Sign and digital do this.

    Well spotted Neil, it is indeed a certain airport :smiles: I think tile removal would be the best solution to be honest as it would drop the level to avoid too much of a step, but I’m fairly sure they won’t want either the added cost or upheaval of that, although I will suggest it as an option. Levelling compound would obviously increase the height & potential step. It’ll be down to them which option they go for & obviously health & safety would be a factor.

    I know S&D have one of their showrooms done with a printed vinyl graphic on the floor which then has a clear lino about 2-3mm over the top for protection, but they did say there was a lot of work done to the floor to get it flat enough, so I’d kind of ruled that option out. I’ll have to chat with the airport again to get an idea of how much they are prepared to accept upheaval wise. I know their usual thing is do it as cheap as possible but make it last forever!!! :shake:

  • Neil Somers

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    They are on track to receive 7.5 million euro in development fees. They should stretch to a new floor. That one is well overdue a make over.
    :thumbsup:

  • Myles Brewer

    Member
    October 7, 2016 at 11:20 pm
    quote Neil Somers:

    They are on track to receive 7.5 million euro in development fees. They should stretch to a new floor. That one is well overdue a make over.
    :thumbsup:

    Yes, hopefully happy days ahead 😆

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 8, 2016 at 4:15 am

    We have huge floor graphic installations all over the world with huge footfall, and wear and tear is minimal in "our experience". we have done anti-skid laminate floors and regular coloured floors with no laminate. your biggest problem is high heels dragging / scuffing.
    Our floors are up to 700 sq metres, with footfall of around 300,000 people within 1-2 months, so not small areas or low volume, however, i would imagine more in an airport!

    I would say a softer floor causes more wear and tear, i.e. vinyl cushion floor like in a kitchen. this is because it lets anything sharp like a heel dig in and do more damage.
    However, edges of tiles will wear quicker than the recess of the tile or flat areas, due to abrasion and scuffing.

    Use the opportunity to up-sell an ongoing maintenance package for the work. lets say a new vinyl skin every 12-24 months?
    I would imagine this less hassle, and cheaper on the nose of removing tiles and all sorts. it also lets them upgrade/change the design whenever suits.

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  • Neil Somers

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    October 8, 2016 at 7:32 am

    Roberts idea sounds lke a good one.

    Gerry Cronolly did all the floors on the ground level. He is not too far from you in Swinford.
    Maybe have a chat to him and see if you could colaborate to come up with something together.

  • Myles Brewer

    Member
    October 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    We have huge floor graphic installations all over the world with huge footfall, and wear and tear is minimal in “our experience”. we have done anti-skid laminate floors and regular coloured floors with no laminate. your biggest problem is high heels dragging / scuffing.
    Our floors are up to 700 sq metres, with footfall of around 300,000 people within 1-2 months, so not small areas or low volume, however, i would imagine more in an airport!

    I would say a softer floor causes more wear and tear, i.e. vinyl cushion floor like in a kitchen. this is because it lets anything sharp like a heel dig in and do more damage.
    However, edges of tiles will wear quicker than the recess of the tile or flat areas, due to abrasion and scuffing.

    Use the opportunity to up-sell an ongoing maintenance package for the work. lets say a new vinyl skin every 12-24 months?
    I would imagine this less hassle, and cheaper on the nose of removing tiles and all sorts. it also lets them upgrade/change the design whenever suits.

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    Nice job on the stripes Rob, I’d say you’d need to go to the opticians for a quick check-up after fitting all them :yikes: How long did that job take out of interest & what vinyl was used?

    Interesting point about the soft floor & wear. The footfall wouldn’t be quite as high as yours as it’s only a regional airport with less than 100k per month going through, & only a proportion of them would be using the restaurant. Would still need to be tough enough if permanent though. I have done a few "short term"!! floor graphics on both the lino & tiled areas in higher traffic areas there, some are nearly 3 years old now & looking ok.

  • Myles Brewer

    Member
    October 8, 2016 at 2:48 pm
    quote Neil Somers:

    Roberts idea sounds lke a good one.

    Gerry Cronolly did all the floors on the ground level. He is not too far from you in Swinford.
    Maybe have a chat to him and see if you could colaborate to come up with something together.

    To be honest Neil, I think it would be something that Gerry could do himself without my intervention. It’ll probably cost more than floor vinyl graphics but would be a better long term job. I don’t like to turn potential work away but if there is a better alternative then I would always suggest they use it.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 8, 2016 at 4:56 pm
    quote Myles Brewer:

    How long did that job take out of interest & what vinyl was used?

    Vinyl used varies on the floor its being fitted too, time it has to be down and colours used, sometimes even the adhesive on the vinyl has to be taken into consideration. but on the whole a good quality cast will suffice.

    Time for installation is again down to the room size, amount of installers and how complex the paremetre wall is as thats what dictates the pattern that evolves in the middle. the busier it is the more cutting and direction changing makes a much longer install. we have rooms done with teams of 5-15 people taking 3x 12hr days up to 3 full weeks of installation time.

    The killer is knees, back and neck… think how you would feel if someone told you to just kneel or even sit on a concrete floor for a week for 12 hours a day. not fun! 😆

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