Flood coat help

[Peter Normington]

jeremy, it would be do-able single handed and dry, but if you are asking, then I would use the wet method, two people, one to unfurl the roll and keep the backing paper away, the other to spray and squidge.

Hope the table will be only for display, it wont last long if used as an eating table?

peter

[Jeremy Howes]

Thanks Peter,
I have a method in my head where I would do it in two parts from the centre out, eg hinge in the middle, peel back, cut backing paper then spray and squidge, is method doable at that size?

Jeremy

[Hugh Potter]

quote Jeremy Howes:

Thanks Peter,
I have a method in my head where I would do it in two parts from the centre out, eg hinge in the middle, peel back, cut backing paper then spray and squidge, is method doable at that size?

Jeremy

thats how i would do it, so yeah !

[Paul Franklin]

Just curious on how you would fold back, hold and cut half the vinyl (approx 2700mm) before floating it onto the metal table. My arm span wouldn’t be anywhere near enough to hold them, am I missing a trick here?

[Peter Normington]

paul,
folded on itself, remove the backing paper, then us a cardboard tube to feed the vinyl onto the table as you squdge thats how I would do it, wet or dry. if doing wet though, a tip is to fold over a couple of inches of the backing, onto itself so it does not get soggy before you have done the first half

Peter

[Paul Franklin]

Sorry Peter, still not entirely sure I get this.

I would fold back a couple of feet of vinyl, remove the backing paper and apply (I always do the left hand side first being a lefty). Then I would roll up the remaining vinyl and take off the backing paper as I apply to the right.

Are we doing the same thing here?

[Lynn Normington]

yes Paul the same bit by bit, not remove all the backing in one go, you’d have to have some seriously long arm’s to do that long, peter isn’t very good at explaining tonite he’s away to his bed had a busy old week,and more to come 😀

Lynn

[Robert Lambie]

are there no "joins" in the table"?
what type of metal?
how warm’ish is the room… dont need temp just cold, warm or hot…
are there returns/depth/sides on the table?
if so how deep?
How long does the vinyl have to last?
what sort of punishment will it endure? i.e. eaten on top of or glass panel paced on top etc etc

[Jeremy Howes]

Hello Rob,
I’ve yet to see the job, but I do know that it’s in a heated room and used to lay blueprints onto…. an inexpensive tidy up.

Cheers
Jeremy

[John Harding]

Jeremy
you say an inexpensive tidy up which implies the table is not in good state, vinyl over the top will show all imperfections and wont last IMHO be carefull!

John

[Shane Drew]

It would be unusual that there is no join in a 5500mm table. I’d use the join if you had one.

Otherwise I’d do it wet, just to give you same latitude if you have a problem.

[Chris Windebank]

Have you tried someone like B Browns? They do a very thick vinyl just for that job, I used to cover table tops and exhibition walls in it, worth a go and goes on dry too

[John Harding]

actually chris you have a point here, Browns and others also sell self adhesive loop nylon,suede and other effects far better than vinyl for a table top and better at covering any irregularities, i’d definately think about going that way

John

[Robert Lambie]

anyone got a URL for B Browns?

if the table does have imperfections, scratches and chips, be careful doing it wet as you will not be able to expel the water from beneath as it will be trapped in these areas.
i would also wrap the vinyl around the edges and sticking it to the underside of the tape to prevent dog-earing.

[John Harding]

Bolloms and browns web addys

Bolloms 022 8658 2299 http://www.bollom.com/display

B Browns 08705 340340 http://www.bbrown.co.uk

John

[Chris Windebank]

OK, this is another company I have used, this particular product can be applied to the edges too and even be sanded to a degree, comes in straight and metallic colours
http://www.ctn-uk.com/stratader.htm

[Jeremy Howes]

Thanks to all for the useful tips and links, great information
Jeremy

[Hugh Potter]

when flooding large banners, or blanks, i do it in the following manner,

cut the vinyl slightly over the required size (or exact if on a banner), hinge in near one end, say 600mm away, fold back, remove backing, roll up the backing, then carefully lay it (still rolled) onto the far end of the vinyl, this will then hold the vinyl in place as you lift it over and begin to apply it,

once the short end is done, remove the hinge, fold the other section back over what’s just been applied, and roll it up, then peel back a couple of feet, holding the peeled off backing against the roll (or cut it off if you prefer) and apply it in small sections, repeat until done, when finished, either tuck the edges under the panel, or trim the ends / edges off with a knife, if possible,

my only word of caution would be to keep it taught, and be careful not to leave small ridge marks where you start each section (you’ll see what i mean if you do it), i would also do this dry. with no application tape, unless you’re concerned about marking the vinyl with small scratches from a felt squeegee, but if the sign is going up fairly high, this need not be a worry as the marks are only visible when close up.

hope this helps.

Hugh

[Jeremy Howes]

Excellent and doable alternative to the centre hinge method.

Thanks Hugh.

Jeremy

[Hugh Potter]

you’re welcome ! much easier method than trying to hold out a whole half (oxymoron ?) i also use the method with any big peice, whether on a van, truck, sign, banner, etc, text, flood, stripes, all of em !