Fitting access issue.

[Phill Fenton]

Wot you need is someone wiv really long arms to help you. Someone like this fella 😕

[Matty Goodwin]

Actually made me belly laugh Phill!

[Matty Goodwin]

would a small scissor lift with extendable platform be an option or would the flooring still be an issue?

[Warren Beard]

apply etch to a thin acrylic or polycarb sheet and VHB tape to windows?

just a thought to save trying to squeegee at that distance?

[Warren Beard]

or tinted acrylic, cut to size and stick up?

[Derek Heron]

hi david some of the smaller scissor lifts will go through a standard door
and have floor friendly wheels.
i wouldn’t use Phil’s mate he cant even put his underpants on the right way.
failing that ali scaffold tower with a double length board clamped safety harness etc

Derek

[Robert.Simpson.]

Haven’t been on here for a while, but we’ve got a nifty 120 which are ideal for inside as they fit through a double door way and you just push it into place so no damages to the floor. They are quite popular so your local access hire firm should have something similar.

[Graham . Shand]

quote David Rogers:

Have a job to do in a sports hall. 12 windows to be covered in etch film at high level to cut down glare.

Was supposed to be an easy job – but the windows are recessed by about 1.2m.

External access is impossible without a 30m jib…even then it’d cause £k worth of damage to the landscaping.

Internal impossible off ladders…measured off them – but a bit as$ clenching with the reach.

Cannot get any form of internal cherry picker due to flooring…and only access is stairwell or lift.
I would suggest using a Tallescope, this is a portable work platform used in theatre, you can hire them in scotland, you can collapse them and then raise into position, give Allan Roy a call from AR access, he services these all over scotland and could probably put you onto someone at Dundee Rep to hire one from them Allan number is 07881976167 , cheers graham shand

Zip-up scaffold looks like only option but will require working outside the perimeter of the guards.

suggestions….

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[Graham . Shand]

quote Graham.Shand:

quote David Rogers:

Have a job to do in a sports hall. 12 windows to be covered in etch film at high level to cut down glare.

Was supposed to be an easy job – but the windows are recessed by about 1.2m.

External access is impossible without a 30m jib…even then it’d cause £k worth of damage to the landscaping.

Internal impossible off ladders…measured off them – but a bit as$ clenching with the reach.

Cannot get any form of internal cherry picker due to flooring…and only access is stairwell or lift.
I would suggest using a Tallescope, this is a portable work platform used in theatre, you can hire them in scotland, you can collapse them and then raise into position, give Allan Roy a call from AR access, he services these all over scotland and could probably put you onto someone at Dundee Rep to hire one from them Allan number is 07881976167 , cheers graham shand

Zip-up scaffold looks like only option but will require working outside the perimeter of the guards.

suggestions….

forgot to mention tallescope extends to double the height (shown in photo), by pulling on the rope you can then select the height up or down. hard against the wall you only need one stabilizer

[Graham . Shand]

quote Graham.Shand:

quote Graham.Shand:

quote David Rogers:

Have a job to do in a sports hall. 12 windows to be covered in etch film at high level to cut down glare.

Was supposed to be an easy job – but the windows are recessed by about 1.2m.

External access is impossible without a 30m jib…even then it’d cause £k worth of damage to the landscaping.

Internal impossible off ladders…measured off them – but a bit as$ clenching with the reach.

Cannot get any form of internal cherry picker due to flooring…and only access is stairwell or lift.
I would suggest using a Tallescope, this is a portable work platform used in theatre, you can hire them in scotland, you can collapse them and then raise into position, give Allan Roy a call from AR access, he services these all over scotland and could probably put you onto someone at Dundee Rep to hire one from them Allan number is 07881976167 , cheers graham shand

Zip-up scaffold looks like only option but will require working outside the perimeter of the guards.

suggestions….

forgot to mention tallescope extends to double the height (shown in photo), by pulling on the rope you can then select the height up or down. hard against the wall you only need one stabilizer

Dundee Rep theatre company, contact name John Chapman, he can show you the tallescope and you can see if it is suitable for your job, he may hire it to you , worth a shout , regards Graham

[Peter Normington]

graham I cant see how your suggestion could work to reach into the recess?

Peter

[Graeme Harrold]

Like Warrens idea of covering the openings with frosted acrylic. cuts glare, easy to fit, easy to remove, probably keep the cost down and simplify access problems. Failing that, just blast them for real using a rigid extended lance!!!

[Robert Lambie]

I’m not sure how high the windows are up. but from your diagram there is a "ledge" where the window is. a mini-tower or similar with stabilizing legs could be erected with a "clamp-on cat-walk" fixed into place from the tower to the ledge. a proper catwalk clamped into place will be solid, no flex/bounce, coupled with harnesses and all should be fine.

at the end of the day the whole thing maybe different from what we have in mind as we are going by the diagram shown. but if you are saying a cherry picker from the outside is a no go, then you are limited in the safe solution you can give the customer.

[Mike Grant]

Scaffold tower as in your picture.
Full harness.
Drill hole as close to window on sloping sill.
Fit eye-bolt.
Tie yourself to eye-bolt.
Do job to best of your ability whilst possibly doing damage to your crown jewels.
Stand back and admire your work.
Get the man with long arms to make you a well earned cup of tea.
Take man with long arms to Tesco to buy a decent pair of Y fronts.

[Graham . Shand]

quote Peter Normington:

graham I cant see how your suggestion could work to reach into the recess?

Peter

Peter, I undestand what you mean at first look, but the basket on the tallescope allows for an out reach which should allow an operator to fit the vinyl to the window as the described at a reach of 1.9 m , even with modest length arms, the biggest issue is getting a piece of access equipment into the venue the other more expensive option is a hired ps 30 genie lift from HSS, which has a modest outreach facility but then there may be weight limit restriction on the floor, which can be more difficult to risk access the , Tallescope is light weight and this with the height capacity, which are used on a daily basis in theatre, which do allow step up and lean over methods, used in conjuntion with a safety lanyard it could be done (or so I think). It requires less work than a scaffold tower and extends and retracts as required I use these all the time and rate them highly , regards Graham S

[Robert Lambie]

i haven’t ever used one of those platforms graham, but understand where your coming from. i never commented as i have no experience in using one, but my only thought when i looked, was if Davids diagram is to scale. then the opening probably want be enough for an extending type platform because the further up the slop you go, the rails to the left and right of the platform will hit the over hanging ceiling. "if that makes sense?"

[Phill Fenton]

Dave – you have connections with a "Blinds" company? – Why not suggest fitting vertical blinds at the start of the openings. Extended cords could be used to provide adjustments. This might be a good way to control glare into the hall?

[Robert Lambie]

quote Phill:

Dave – you have connections with a “Blinds” company? – Why not suggest fitting vertical blinds at the start of the openings. Extended cords could be used to provide adjustments. This might be a good way to control glare into the hall?

maxinmise the sale and offer remote control closing blinds phill as those huge long cords are so yesterday. 😉
thing is, Dave loss’s the sale and the sister company gains one… cant be having that.

[Graham . Shand]

quote Robert Lambie:

i haven’t ever used one of those platforms graham, but understand where your coming from. i never commented as i have no experience in using one, but my only thought when i looked, was if Davids diagram is to scale. then the opening probably want be enough for an extending type platform because the further up the slop you go, the rails to the left and right of the platform will hit the over hanging ceiling. “if that makes sense?”

Rob, the tallescope can be placed side on, because the basket offers railed protectiontop and bottom , it could be elevated higher and the top rail of the basket could be level with the top of the window, in a crouched position, or seated , there by having a bar in front of your chest the reach could be achieved. regards Graham S, PS apoligies for multile psoting problems with my wi fi at the moment , slow slow very slow

[David Rogers]

Thanks for all suggestions.

My initial before posting here was zip-up scaffold – clamped on platform extending to window ledge & harnessed back to the scaffold. Which seems to be the ‘sensible’ option offered up by serious contributors.

Graham – can’t see how your thing would work. I need to get INTO the recess. The glass can be reached from the vertical wall – but just touched in the middle…it’s 12 panes at 1700mm wide.

re: blinds company comments.

Blinds are not an option for a sports hall – remote control or not – which is why I’m being roped in to do the work FOR the blinds company.

Drawing is apx to scale.

Around 4.5 / 5m up to bottom of recess. apx 1.2m deep sloping recesses.
Window panes 1700 x 800mm (12 off)

NO forms of mini-lifts or cherry pickers are allowed in the hall…and STILL wouldn’t solve the outreach issue.

Am doing a survey tomorrow with a tower in place. If I deem it safe then it’s a go – if not….I’ve got 25m of etch that’ll get used eventually!

[Fred McLean]

Light grey or white paint!!!!! With a remote operated nozzle on a pole!!

F