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  • Fitted a set of suppliied orafol graphics to a truck

    Posted by Martyn Heath on August 20, 2018 at 12:35 pm

    Hi all.

    I fitted this lorry today

    Graphics were supplied by another company as this is a nationwide firm.
    Everything was printed with orafol and it had grey backing.

    I only use Avery ansd dont use grey back.

    Normally with something this size i would start from the middle, lay with a dusting of water so it can be put in place before i lay it. Because this was grey back it didnt feel very tacky so i was concerned with doing it wet. I ended up starting from the left, layed the first half metre then worked my way along, all dry. Obviously an issue with this could be running out but it turned out to be just 1.5mm which im happy with over this distance.

    Nothing had any joins it was all one piece.

    Any of you guys use orafol? what would you guess this material range is? and how would you have tackled this?


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    David Stevenson replied 5 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    August 20, 2018 at 12:52 pm

    We use the 3164 for stickers and health and safety signs. It can come grey backed. It’s there cheapest roll and they do have a range. Would of gone on fine wet, or at least any boards we do are fine.
    Nightmare to remove though. If it’s the cheap stuff.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 20, 2018 at 4:01 pm
    quote Chris Wilson:

    We use the 3164 for stickers and health and safety signs. It can come grey backed. It’s there cheapest roll and they do have a range. Would of gone on fine wet, or at least any boards we do are fine.
    Nightmare to remove though. If it’s the cheap stuff.

    Thanks chris. im 99% sure its not the cheap stuff as it wouldnt be suitable for the job long term

  • Colin Crabb

    Member
    August 20, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    3165 has grey adhesive, rated for 5year / medium term flat panel application, 100micron (did it feel thicker than normal?)

    Used in the past, no real comment other than we had a few issues printing when we moved to HP Latex in 2014

  • David Hammond

    Member
    August 20, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    From memory doesn’t 3164 have a water based adhesive?

    regards fitting, tape in place, hinge down the centre, snitty the backing and work centre out.

  • Chris Wilson

    Member
    August 20, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    [quote="David Hammond"]From memory doesn’t 3164 have a water based adhesive?

    Might do. But we use for quick turn around health and safety boards and lots and lots of stickers.

    I only brought it up as I know others near to us are quite happy to use it on vehicles. Unfortunately.

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 21, 2018 at 6:20 am

    Hi, it seemed slightly thicker than normal yes.

    Never tried the slitting way of fitting. Is this the tool for the job david

    https://signgeer.com/sign-wrap-tools/cu … uard-knife

  • David Hammond

    Member
    August 21, 2018 at 6:28 am

    That’s the tool, we have 1 in each fitting box, and a few around the unit. :thumbsup: also handy when laminating :thumbsup:

    My question about water based adhesive, I was always under the impression not to fit it wet, as it dilutes the adhesive. I know it can go milky on windows. We rarely fit anything wet these days.

    BTW i think oracal print the vinyl code down the edge release liner

  • Martyn Heath

    Member
    August 21, 2018 at 11:04 am

    Thats great i will purchase a couple. Didnt see anything obvious on the liner just orafol, orajet. Its all been safely recycled now so i cant check either.

  • David Stevenson

    Member
    August 21, 2018 at 11:28 am

    3164 is water based, 3651 solvent based. Used 3164 previous when we 1st started signage, noticed it used to shrink badly. Never used water with it try to avoid it where possible.

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