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    Posted by Nigel Fraser on February 10, 2004 at 8:58 pm

    Downright heavy in two cases – both the tray signs were all in one piece, there were two of the dark blue ones 3500x2000mm, a pig to do in the rain and wind (and it was Manchester so we had to keep moving all our tools back to the relative safety of the truck and hope no little urchin loosens yer scaffolding legs!)

    The Regent one was smaller but polished stainless, so it was just as heavy and a right pig to get all the greasy finger marks off after !

    …and before anyone asks, the “Digital” lettering has a PCB pattern in the background, not flaky paint as somebody once said it looked like – it was the customers idea anyway !
    Still, we did the job and got paid 😀
    Nigel


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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    February 10, 2004 at 9:20 pm

    Always great to see your work Nigel…
    Once again, they all look great! 😉 thanks for taking the time to post them.

    I see you use scaffold towers. I also see you have a scissor lift cherry-picker. Would it not be faster/easier/cheaper to use a large telescopic boom, cherry picker?

    The reason i say this is because we have our own and use it lots. It’s not a telescopic one though but opens up in two arms and acts similar.
    You can get these types with wide platforms also that allow 2-3 men.
    What i have done is welded-up some metal brackets that hang on the side of our bucket. We have 3 sets, different lengths.
    Basically you hang them on the side of the bucket then sit the sign into them. Then press the buttons and the hoist takes you and the sign up to the right height. The brackets are not fixed and can swing back and forward slightly. We then fix the sign from the middle and out left and right as much as possible., then lower the bucket. Because the sign is fixed at the top the brackets slide out from below and we fix along the bottom and secure.

    Just a suggestion mate.. I know there are sometimes more to a job than meets the eye

    oh yes and your comments on manchester.. hmmm im fittying signs in manchester at 6.45am tommorrow & i have been winded up about working down here now.. 😮 should i take a gun? better still, give it a miss 😉
    only kidding, ill be in and out like dusty-bluebell 😉

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    February 11, 2004 at 9:24 am

    Yes your quite probably right Rob ! I only hire the towers/platform as and when I need because I don’t do enough of these sort of jobs to justify buying really. Well towers/decks maybe but I don’t have enough space to store them either so thats a problem too.
    Your suggestion was similar to what we did with that job in the pic, you can just make out the wood battens sticking out of the side of the platform along with all the bubblewrap to protect the face ! Trouble was that the canopy stopped us getting the platform close enough to the building and the handrail on the deck was in the way then too 😥 so as you say, a better job all round would probably have been a different type of lift platform and no towers – you live and learn i guess 😉

    Nigel

  • Dave Bruce

    Member
    February 11, 2004 at 10:08 am

    Great work Nigel, big signs, hope they brought in a big pay!

    The Broadstock one looks a real pain to set up and get to, like Rob says a cherry picker would have saved a lot of time. Like you I don’t do much of this work but have some scaffolding for the slightly high jobs then hire a picker for the big ones (only one so far).

    Do you use those drill and screw type screws for this kind of work? If not how did you fasten them onto the corrugations?

    Did you get my email Nigel?

    Cheers

    Dave

  • Nigel Fraser

    Member
    February 11, 2004 at 10:30 am

    Yeh I think I covered my costs with these 😉
    Though just as a lesson for me not to try a new fixing technique on a high up job – I initially fitted the Bodilsen cut dibond letters with brass locators which were drilled and tapped into 2″ squares of 5mm acrylic which were in turn stuck on the back of the letters using 3M tape (a form of vhb but a pure adhesive type with no carrier). 6 Months later I drove by the job and saw to my horror a number of letters litterally hanging off 😥 Just through expansion I guess, the tape had “sheared” off the back of the letters and caused numerous locators to detatch. There were two sets on the building aswell, so the next day I had to do the whole fixing job again anf this time drilled the face of the letters and used csk s/s fixings which I then stuck little vinyl circles over the heads.
    On the tray fixing jobs, I try and locate the fixings into the steel supports behind the cladding if possible on this type of heavy sign. then use the stainless self drilling type screws. On the cladding I sometimes use a type of metal hollow wall anchor which opens out in a big 2″ star shape to spread the load better or for smaller things the self drilling type again but just have to be carefull not to strip out the thread by overtightening them.

    No e-mail message Dave, I think NTL had a big prob over the last few days with the mail server and quite a lot got delayed/deleted. I have just set up my ADSL line now, so don’t think it should be a problem if you resend 😉

    Nigel

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