• Epson printers ??

    Posted by steve geary on February 24, 2006 at 8:11 pm

    Anyone have any experience with Epson?
    Reason I ask is;
    One of my main suppliers just started selling them and they have an attractive price.
    They claim I Could use a 24″ printer in conjunction with a my roland gx24 cutter.

    I haven’t talked to my supplier yet, which i will as soon as i get some time, just thought i’d check and see if anyone here has heard anything.
    I don’t know if these “wide format models” they’re offering are relatively new or not. They have a 17″, 24″ and a 44″.

    Any thoughts?

    For me, it would be a fairly economical way to get a small print and cut system. I do believe that you get what you pay for, but I’m definitely going to research these a bit.

    here’s a link to the three models they’re offering..
    http://www.beacongraphics.com/epson/epson-pro.html

    thanks all
    steve

    steve geary replied 18 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 12 Replies
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  • steve geary

    Member
    February 24, 2006 at 8:24 pm

    Well I just talked to the dealer to get a quick rundown..
    It seems basically the biggest draw back is that it’s pigmented ink, so i suppose anything outdoors over 6 months or so would have to be laminated.
    Am i right with this assumption?
    anyone do any sign work with pigmented inks?

    thanks again,
    steve

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    February 25, 2006 at 2:56 pm

    I’ve got a HP3000 printer on pigmented inks, you do have to use the right media and laminate it but with a good quality laminate with UV blockers in the prints can last a few years outdoors.
    One of the main factors though will be which direction will the sign face, South and they get the direct sun all day, north and they get non.
    Also how sunny is your area, ours isn’t very sunny so the prints are going to last longer anyway.

  • Andrew Bennett

    Member
    February 26, 2006 at 5:40 pm

    Rob did a demo about using clear vinyl to laminate pictures from the edge to extend their outdoor durability.

  • steve geary

    Member
    February 26, 2006 at 6:45 pm

    Thanks for that link Andrew.
    It may pay to check into that conversion. I’ll keep researching.

  • Andrew Bennett

    Member
    February 26, 2006 at 9:11 pm

    Thats okay Steve,
    I wish I lived in the USof A then I’d drive by the place myself.

    I certainly would like to know the result of your research as I would like to buy a inkjet type printer that could print on vinyl for external vehicle stuff..

  • steve geary

    Member
    February 28, 2006 at 5:17 pm

    Bump

    Just wondering if anyone else had any thoughts??

    I’m curious if i could Laminate a print with pigmented inks and use it on vehicles and small decals.
    Would it just be a waste of time?
    No long winded replys needed, just hoping some of the experienced printers would say.. yeah i’d be acceptable or no, Don’t bother.

    My supplier stated verbally, that this system with lamination would be comparable to a versacamm print. Is He blowing Steam?

    thanks
    steve

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    February 28, 2006 at 5:55 pm
    quote :

    My supplier stated verbally, that this system with lamination would be comparable to a versacamm print. Is He blowing Steam?

    YES HE IS.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    February 28, 2006 at 5:59 pm

    Yep… although big advances in Epson ink but can you trust these claims ?
    The market is buying UV, solvent or Eco-Solvent with lamination mainly.

  • Checkers

    Member
    February 28, 2006 at 6:05 pm

    Yep Steve, He’s blowing steam in a big way. Check out this link…
    ttp://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-8834&category=Paper+%26+Media
    If it doesn’t work, it basically says…
    Adhesive Vinyl is the perfect choice for outdoor signage that requires adhesive backing. This durable, wet-strength media boasts a waterproof base that’s ideal for indoor or outdoor use. In fact, it can be used for outdoor displays for up to four months before fading occurs. For longer life, a top lamination layer to extend the life of the print is required. Best of all, its pressure sensitive backing makes it possible to remove and reposition signage within the first 24 hours of application.

    Cheers,

    Checkers
    a.k.a. Brian Born
    Harrisburg, PA USA

  • Barry Coles

    Member
    February 28, 2006 at 6:06 pm

    I have a Epson 4000 which I use for photographic work it is very good and the print life one of the best you can get , however that is on photo paper. According to the web site quoted the media suggested is Duragraphix which I cannot trace from the UK . If anyone knows of other suitable media I would like to give it a try.

    Barry

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    February 28, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    i have both a epson 9500 with pigmented inks and a solvent printer and although there uses can cross over from time to time you really have to class them of indoor or outdoor use.

    the real problem is materials the only outdoor water based ink vinyl i could find was low quality and the edges had to be sealed well on to a quality paper they are stunning.

    solvent type look stunning onto standard vinyls but not to hot on paper unless its the stuff from gratyp very very expencive. horses for courses.

    chris

  • steve geary

    Member
    February 28, 2006 at 6:14 pm

    Thanks all!

    That’s what I wanted to hear!

    I’ll stick to waiting ’till i have the volume for a quality investment, and I”ll just outsource my small stuff to Checkers in a few months when he buys all his new equipment 😀

    Cheers!

    steve

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