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[John Harding]

No Graeme youre way off

far too cheap – I would be well north of there although perhaps depending on the banner you may be able to buy in nearer £10 p/sq m

Who is she to chew your ear off on price thats the whole point of getting more than one quote surely

John 😀

[Karl Williams]

quote John Harding:

No Graeme youre way off

far too cheap – I would be well north of there although perhaps depending on the banner you may be able to buy in nearer £10 p/sq m

Who is she to chew your ear off on price thats the whole point of getting more than one quote surely

John 😀

I’ll second that John. She’s probably got a quote off ebay mate.

[Peter Normington]

I think the problem arises when "trade" suppliers sell banners to the general public.
I have recently seen banners advertised from less than £10 a square, and at 720 dpi before anyone says the quality will be rubbish.
an order of 20 banners could be considered a trade order in most peoples books.
get what you think your customer will pay, but at the end of the day, banners are obtainable as cheap as chips by joe public, and they unfortunatley will not pay anymore than they have to, would you?

Yes I agree like for like needs to be taken into account, but as most banners now seem to be short term, cheap materials and finishing is usually all that is needed.

the sign industry is swamped with digital printers, and the only way that a lot of business can make money with them is by running them 24/7 on low margins.

I make very few banners, I can make a far better profit in other ways.

Peter

[Chris Wool]

your price was fine to light. ( good job she didn’t ring me )

i would ask where the best quote was from so that you can use them in the future 😉

[Graeme Harrold]

Thanks for the comments, much appreciated and good to know I wasnt devaluing the product (too much) even though there are plenty out there who are.

[Gary Birch]

Maybe you just found your candidate :lol1: :lol1: 😉

https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … 850#351850

[Paul Humble]

Ive stopped quoting for banners after being told time and again they are cheaper on eBay.

Pfft

[Nigel Hindley]

It doesn’t bother me much folk telling me stuff is cheaper elsewhere particularly online – I usually say as long as you are sure they quoting for the same quality of materials, offer the same service and will still be there if you want your money back.

I recently told someone after giving an hour of advice and samples to, to effectively go away. They came in asked me to beat an Internet price, after using my advice and info to get this.

I said no wont do it, wont even look at your Internet prices. I said we are not a faceless Internet company we have premises with staff that offer advice give samples, this costs and you have taken our time and samples. Had you done your research somewhere else and just came here with the relevant info we may have. At this point I had turned and walked away leaving them embarrassed. They will be back, I know it!

We dont pander or want the customers who shop on price, why would you? you WILL ALWAYS find a cheaper price if thats what you want. Need a usp that’s not based on price.

Nigel

[Adam McGuire]

I get the same, 10ft by 3ft banners required, and could I beat £15 each!? Said to be coming from an eBay shop but he was picking them up from the shop….

Haven’t the foggiest, but I reckon most people don’t care about the quality anymore.

On the other hand I’ve been told by a customer I was to cheap and he told me to add £70 for a Truck I did.

I regularly see signs saying "Vans Stickered from £65", I guess I can’t comment because I don’t know what size van and how much you get….but it’s all killing the market for everyone else.

Maybe I just expect too much?

[Peter Normington]

No one is killing the market.
its down to competition, the more the prices fall the more people will buy the product, and the printer manufactures will bring out bigger and faster machines to keep up with the demand, its really simple economics and goes on in any field.
Mobile phones are a prime example,
I had one of the first supplied by my company, it cost about 1k and i think that was . over 20 years ago, now every 4 year old has one, but the phone companies dont seem to have been hit by the "recession"
banners are now a cheap disposable product, if you want to do them and compete then you have to do them at a similar price to what the market is prepared to pay, just my opinion but if you cant compete dont try,
you only have to look at the banners outside Macdonalds to see the quality of the material,
but it does the job, and joe public looks at the message, not what it is on

Peter

[Nigel Hindley]

quote Peter Normington:

No one is killing the market.
its down to competition, the more the prices fall the more people will buy the product, and the printer manufactures will bring out bigger and faster machines to keep up with the demand, its really simple economics and goes on in any field.
Mobile phones are a prime example,
I had one of the first supplied by my company, it cost about 1k and i think that was . over 20 years ago, now every 4 year old has one, but the phone companies dont seem to have been hit by the “recession”
banners are now a cheap disposable product, if you want to do them and compete then you have to do them at a similar price to what the market is prepared to pay, just my opinion but if you cant compete dont try,
you only have to look at the banners outside Macdonalds to see the quality of the material,
but it does the job, and joe public looks at the message, not what it is on

Peter

I largely agree with you Peter but with regard to ‘do them at a similar price to what the market is prepared to pay’ I have always been one for find a market that is willing to pay what you want to charge or as you say don’t bother. You may sell less but you make the same money in less time. We don’t produce banners we buy them in and we sell shed loads at way way over the prices mentioned here.

Many customers would not know how to prepare artwork etc

Im surprised that a lot here get the ‘I can find them cheaper on line’ – why do these people then waste time going around or even phoning around when they have an ‘unbeatable online price’ – my guess is they either don’t or there is a good reason why they dont buy online ie no idea about artwork postage etc Id stick to my guns charge a lot more and maybe get 1 in 4 orders same money 1/4 of the work.

Nigel

[Peter Normington]

Nigel
the artwork is a different matter, the people that want to get something noticed will pay a premium, I dont doubt that,
but then the money will or should be earned for the design, not the production of the banners.
Graeme was talking about production, rather than creating the artwork.

so how can you charge say £129 for a banner that can be bought elswhere for £40?

Peter

[Graeme Harrold]

quote Peter Normington:

Nigel
the artwork is a different matter, the people that want to get something noticed will pay a premium, I dont doubt that,
but then the money will or should be earned for the design, not the production of the banners.
Graeme was talking about production, rather than creating the artwork.

so how can you charge say £129 for a banner that can be bought elswhere for £40?

Peter

This was for supply only, art work done (but not seen, so cant comment on the standard). Finish – hemmed only as it was being "nailed" to battons!!!

I get my big stuff from Hampshire flag @ £15 +VAT and carriage, so my cut was quite small as a facilitator. Low margin jobs e.g. business cards I get as the customer dosent have the time to sort the order, so I make a commission for their laziness……….or they can make more money in the time it takes them to do it than I charge…………….

[Nigel Hindley]

quote Peter Normington:

Nigel
the artwork is a different matter, the people that want to get something noticed will pay a premium, I dont doubt that,
but then the money will or should be earned for the design, not the production of the banners.
Graeme was talking about production, rather than creating the artwork.

so how can you charge say £129 for a banner that can be bought elswhere for £40?

Peter

Im not really sure myself Peter, I’m guessing quality of service. I have run a few business over the last few years and all them had a rep for being pricy. Pretty much all of them though have been the busiest of their type in the area.

And yes we charge between £120 – £150 per banner for a 2500 x 600 – 3000 x 600 or 700 and have sold 3 this week so far.

I have a company that lets holiday accommodation and have done for the last 12 years or so. The more we charge the more business we get. I truly believe that most people shop on price and I don’t mean look for the cheapest price I mean have a budget in mind that they are willing to spend for some people this is (for accommodation say) £35 pn we charge between £140 and £300 per night peak season. When we first started we charge £26 pn and just found a larger market the higher the price.

In business I simply try to find these customers

As for banners I truly believe that if we charged £30-£40 people wouldn’t buy them thinking they were crap.

Nigel

[John McNickle]

i can get 8′ X 4′ banners fully printed with stitched hems and eyelets for £35.00 at my local trade printer and a very good quality print, so any big ones i just buy in and put artwork time etc onto them

[Ian Johnston]

quote John McNickle:

i can get 8′ X 4′ banners fully printed with stitched hems and eyelets for £35.00 at my local trade printer and a very good quality print, so any big ones i just buy in and put artwork time etc onto them

JOHN

do you mind if i ask you who does your banners?

Thanks

Ian

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[Shaun Cleary]

Is that including postage and vat, also is it finished.

[Graeme Harrold]

OK me thinks I opened a bloody big can of worms with this one :lol1: :lol1:

[BenRead]

was this woman from altrincham by any chance?.. i had an enquiry for exactly this size banner.

[Graeme Harrold]

I think that’s was the rough dialing code area, as it was definitely not local to me……….did you get the job??? :lol1:

[BenRead]

as yet ive not heard back from her, and mine was a good price at a dime over 600.