Does this sound right?

[Peter Normington]

4k is probably on the high side, would you be printing this in house, or subbing out, and would artwork be provided? what material has been specified? all relevant facts, so without full specs hard to say what is keen or not…
A banner of this size is very specialist, and needs a lot of consideration, in
regards of how and where it will be used.
If you have been given a figure to compete with, then it is really your choice if you can beat it, and if you can provide the necessary warranties as to suitability,

Peter

[Ruairi O'Boyle]

I haven’t been given much information just that it is site hoarding! (not what I would recommend due to potential of vandalism!).

They just said it had to be laminated with enough eyelets to support it along its length.

Not much help but they have quotes at 10k+ hence my interest but then this one came in and I was slightly surprised!

[Phill Fenton]

quote Ruairi O’Boyle:

I have been asked to price a UV laminated banner 300ftx10ft. Ive been told that someone is doing it for just less than £4k. Is that likely? seems very keen!

That works out at £14.5 per sq. metre which is about the best price you could get from a trade print supplier. It also does not allow for laminating so I would say it’s highly unlikely. 10K is a more realistic price I would’ve thought.

[Kevin Flowers]

Trade price i have is £10.00 per square meter for high quality orders over 5 mtrs, but then again it goes down to quality. media used etc

Kev

[Robert Lambie]

quote Ruairi O’Boyle:

I have been asked to price a UV laminated banner 300ftx10ft. Ive been told that someone is doing it for just less than £4k. Is that likely? seems very keen!

UV "laminated" or "UV printed" banner then laminated?

I do not see the point in laminating a banner, but i am sue there will be good reason.

if the banner has been UV printed it wont take a laminate other than maybe liquid laminate which is only going to help with UV bleaching of the colours, but not grafitti.
UV printing leaves a stippled surface where ink has been laid. vinyl laminate wont take to it well, it will also leave heavy silvering.

best way round this is to call http://www.macroart.co.uk/ and ask them to quote you on doing the work. speak to them about lamination and what they would recommend. for something this size i would get them to print it anyway and just put a mark-up on it.

once you do speak to them, find out what grade of banner they will use, ask will/do they recommend strengthening straps and so on…
these folk are long time in the game and should advise you 100%.
now if they quote in about the same price, you "might" be up against a TRADE supplier, there for its time to walk away. however…
put your mark-up on the job as you would any job. even if it is more expensive. then ask the customer to give you stipulations on what has been quoted to them. they may just say, give me your price…
here you give it, but then give them advice what has been given to you by macroart. tell them how heavy a grade banner material that has been used, why this and why that… £4k or £10k either is allot of money to blow on a donkey! educate the customer into beleiving that you have his best interests at heart as well as knowing what you are talking about.
i have done this many times, it always works… i had a customer spend £800 more per vehicle than some of the quotes given to him by our competition. why? because i wasnt talking crap and just trying to get a sale. i was explaining why we chose the materials we quoted on. what could go wrong if not fitted by qualified fitters. why lamination was paramount on printed vehicle graphics, what ink was used when printing… the dpi and quality of the prints and so on… all relevant to us lot, but way over the customers head. (until, you show him the difference)
show him the difference in…
300dpi – 700dpi and so on…
4 passes, 8 passes and so on…
what happens to prints 3 months after being on the road without lamination and so on…

you wont win them all, but when you do, win the work because you offer a superior job that will last. not because you managed to undercut the cowboy down the road…

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[Ruairi O'Boyle]

Ill give them a shout today Rob.

Thanks
Ruairi

[Chris Wool]

any body thought about the weight of that size banner.
i struggle to load a 25mt roll (cos i is a wimp )

c

[Graeme Harrold]

I sometimes use Hampshire Flag as they supply pretty good quality and will ship direct to the customer.

Also use their online calculator for pricing and for this size (print and finish only) comes to £5800 so just add delivery and laminating.

[David Rogers]

I’d be buying in a non-laminated banner for about the £2k mark – so somebody selling for £4k isn’t that bad – even if it cost £500 extra to wet laminate it.

Basically it’s all depending on who you get to do your print work and how good a deal you can swing.

Dave

[Robert Lambie]

Chris, you are correct. it will weigh a ton and unless fitted as a building wrap using a suspension/tensioning system with pulleys to get into place. you will have problems…

however, as its for a hoarding, it can be done in sections.
i did a banner about 60-70ft by 6ft deep, about two weeks ago.
fitted it to the front of a factory about 35ft up on a cherrypicker.

we could have printed the lot in one go. but we didn’t. we printed it in sections 3no. x 6ft deep by 20 odd feet long… i then used tech screws with rubber+metal washers to fit it directly to the cladding. this is a short term job, but i still imagine they will need about 3 months or so out it.
fitting in sections helps "allot" when working with a heavy banner. it also reduces the chance of the "whole thing" coming down, should it be caught in high winds/storms/volcano’s 😉 :lol1: do not just fix around the the parameter of the banner. pre-space the fixing points equally around every foot and also down the face of the banner every 4ft.

what you will have "over" trade suppliers trying to take your work is the fact they do not do installs. they are also NOT designers so the customer will have to have the design done in-house or sub it to a design house to the trade suppliers spec, which wont be cheap. they will then be handing it BLIND to a random trade supplier over the net. a week or so later they will then take possession of a huge banner and be faced with the daunting task of geting it installed. AGAIN at extra costs…

so as you see, them getting a price for a banner at £4k doesn’t end their problems just there. they have other things to consider and that’s where us, as professionals, should have the upper hand.