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  • does anyone use jetbest inks?

    Posted by tekstlogo on September 1, 2005 at 10:11 pm

    Hey all

    Does anyone know/use inks from mod-edit in Taiwan.

    Use it my self and wpuld like to hear from other users, about tips or troubles.

    Shane Drew replied 14 years, 8 months ago 18 Members · 74 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    September 1, 2005 at 10:12 pm

    are you having bother with them mate? are they ecosolvent or solvent inks?

  • tekstlogo

    Member
    September 1, 2005 at 10:18 pm

    Yeah, I had some problems with it over time, but it all came down to one cause.
    The ink dries up in the tube around the pumps, when the printer have been off for some time.
    Jetbest have sent me some new tubing that should and do help, but it is to hard for the pump i stops some times.

    Other than that I am very glad for the inks, especially the price… 72 us dollar pr liter.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    September 1, 2005 at 10:30 pm

    are they solvent or eco solvent mate? is this bulk ink system not carts then?

  • tekstlogo

    Member
    September 1, 2005 at 10:37 pm

    It is called eco solvent, but it is based on a tru solvent ink. It (almost) dosent smell and is very scrach resistent.

    It comes both in cartriges and in bag/tube system witch I have.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    September 2, 2005 at 12:33 am

    i could be wrong, as I’m far from an expert in this Field but sounds like a lower costing ink that is on our market just now, its not just as aggressive as solvent so doesn’t hold its own just as good, but IS, like you say more aggressive/better than the eco-sol as far as abrasion or chemical resistance goes.
    again, i could be wrong, but i think this is what is being sold here as citrisol but with an added something to give it a better, more pleasant smell? only difference is its being sold more expensive than the solvent inks.

    like i say, could be wrong, just voicing some thoughts ive had after speaking with various suppliers.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    September 2, 2005 at 8:05 am

    we have a JV3 and keeping it on Originial Ink. The bulk ink stuff isn’t covered by Mimaki waranty and also Bulk Ink is being made re-sold by everybody these days and I have no idea where or who makes it. The ink by Mimaki is very well made and will cause less damage to the JV3 and parts will last longer, however I don’t want our members of staff becoming engineers fixing the machine so thats why we are staying original ink.

    I go by the policy of, if you are printing each day for about 6+ hours then Bulk Ink should be considered or if you just do a sign here and then then OEM ink should be used.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    September 24, 2007 at 11:22 pm

    Well this is an old thread I found doing a search for info on jetbest ink. Thought I’d ask for any input from members who have used jetbest solvent ink lately.

    I recently contacted Jetbest about their solvent ink and prices. I run a JV3 6 colour 160S and am currently using Sericol bulk ink. While I have no problem with Sericol ink quality (aside from some issues with their yellow, now fixed), it is expensive at $250 per litre. With about a litre of ink going into the printer waste bottle every 6 weeks, that’s obviously a lot of money going down the drain on cleaning routines.

    Jetbest inks are much cheaper, however, I need to find out more from other users of this ink in order to determine if there are any issues in terms of printhead clogging, UV stability, etc. If saving a heap on ink means spending a heap on printheads or poor print life, well who would want to go there 🙄

    Any info welcome.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    September 27, 2007 at 7:52 am

    Obviously no takers 😀

    After doing a little research I’ve decided to try it out and see how it goes. I did receive one private response from a happy customer in the US who has been using it for a couple of years with no problems. If it works out I can only describe the savings as HUGE! I’ll give an update on this in a few weeks…

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    October 4, 2007 at 1:55 am

    Last Thursday I ordered 12 Litres (2 full sets for my JV3) of solvent ink from Jetbest in Taiwan, also some dampers and wipers. The order was on my doorstep first thing Monday morning, DHL tracking all the way! I rarely get domestic deliveries that fast!

    I won’t get a chance to change over my bulk ink system for another week or two (busy atm) but I have to say that I’m very impressed with their exceptional customer service so far.

    If their ink is as good as they claim it to be (smells and looks exactly the same as the ink I’m currently using) then I’m going to be a very happy and regular customer. I still can’t believe their price 😮 😀

    I’ll comment more when it’s up and running…

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    October 4, 2007 at 3:34 am

    how much an $a litre did it work out too Bill? Profiling will be fun 😉

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    October 4, 2007 at 3:42 am

    Shane, a little under $30 AU per Litre plus freight – that’s about 1/10 my current per Litre cost. Mate, for that kind of saving I don’t mind learning how to profile 😀

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    October 4, 2007 at 4:38 am

    mmm… you know AGS sell jetbest here in OZ? http://www.ags.com.au/store/group.asp?GroupID=577

    $30 a litre? or a 220mm cartridge?, might be nice to have the support of a retailer if anything goes wrong. That’s pretty cheap tho if its per litre tho..

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    October 4, 2007 at 5:07 am

    Yes Shane, that’s $30 per Litre. They quoted me about the same for a 440ml cartridge, and can supply with or without chips. I don’t use cartridges though.

    Based on my dealings with them so far, which has been first class, I would say their after sales customer support couldn’t be worse than your recent retailer experience 😕

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    October 12, 2007 at 10:53 pm

    Update: changed over to Jetbest solvent ink a couple of days ago. Performed a full system flush and clean and installed the new ink with no problems. Aside from a very slightly different smell, I can’t tell any difference in print quality and initial tests indicate no noticable difference in print finish or scratch resistance. Got to say I’m pretty impressed so far 😀

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 12, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    Thanks for much for taking the time to give a bit of feedback bill. much appreciated mate…

  • David Rowland

    Member
    October 13, 2007 at 12:28 am

    very interesting posts Bill… keeps us informed. I have heard of Jetbest but thats about it.

    Do you use some kind of tank system or 440ml carts on a refill basis?

    The thing that interests me the most is how accurate the C M Y K is over OEM carts. I have had companies claiming theirs is the best and accurate but when put under pressure it turns out not to be case.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    October 13, 2007 at 12:45 am

    Dave, I use an external bulk tank system. As for colour accuracy, it’s obvious that most printers will only print as well as they are set up, profiled and operated. I’ve heard lots of claims about 3rd party inks being inferior in quality and/or gamut to OEM but when you really examine who is claiming what, it usually seems pretty clear what’s going on 🙄

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    October 18, 2007 at 10:17 am

    A little update: having run Jetbest ink for a couple of weeks I have to say I now prefer it over my previous ink. There appears to be very little difference in colours, to the extent that I haven’t yet bothered with a new profile. Perhaps the biggest difference is that the yellow is very slightly darker than my old ink.

    Yesterday I performed a scratch and rub test on printed vinyl to ascertain if there was any difference from my old ink. I was surprised to find that the new ink was considerably more scratch and solvent (rubbed with metho) resistant.

    Another interesting tidbit is that my cyan head has had a couple of nozzles out for about two months now. After using the new ink for a couple of weeks, these nozzles are now back in action. Does that sound like a cheesy add or what 😀

  • Radu T

    Member
    October 25, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    Had the JetBest Eco ink for some time in a Spitfire. It performed very well, very strong colors. One of the best Eco inks I have encountered. If an ink runs well in a Spitfire, it will run exceptional in other printers.
    After some month, I got deflecting nozzles on some heads. But I’m not really sure if it was the ink, as I had also a head crash meanwhile.
    I recommend this ink. Price /quality – very good.

  • Heng

    Member
    November 2, 2007 at 12:35 am
    quote Bill McMurtry:

    A little update: having run Jetbest ink for a couple of weeks I have to say I now prefer it over my previous ink. There appears to be very little difference in colours, to the extent that I haven’t yet bothered with a new profile. Perhaps the biggest difference is that the yellow is very slightly darker than my old ink.

    Yesterday I performed a scratch and rub test on printed vinyl to ascertain if there was any difference from my old ink. I was surprised to find that the new ink was considerably more scratch and solvent (rubbed with metho) resistant.

    Another interesting tidbit is that my cyan head has had a couple of nozzles out for about two months now. After using the new ink for a couple of weeks, these nozzles are now back in action. Does that sound like a cheesy add or what 😀

    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for letting us know about Jetbest. We are also considering using bulk inks and this sounds good. Their website doesn’t give much information so not able to find out if they provide the bulk system set-up or just the inks. Any idea at all?

    How is the ink going now? Would be great if you can post more about it. And was it easy to switch over?

    thanks heaps
    Heng

  • Andre Woodcock

    Member
    November 2, 2007 at 7:10 am

    Hi Bill,

    Are you using Jetbest Eco or Full Solvent ink? I met a jetbest representative, Richard Hu at the Sign & Graphic trade fair in Dubai earlier this year. I was using Citrosol ink at that time and in search of new and better ink. Change to Fillink instead. Since I switch to Solmax Iam now 50th plus litre . And still considering changing to Jetbest ECO ink. Simply to have possibility of ordering straight from the manufacturer thus avoid expired ink. Note most inks have 6 months self life.

    Please Bill keep us posted.

    Andre

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    November 2, 2007 at 9:23 pm

    Hi Heng, I’m not Dave 😀 The ink is still performing exceptionally well – I’m very pleased with it. The change over went smoothy, I did a complete system flush and washed out my bulk containers, replaced all the dampers, and simply filled and primed the new ink. I’m not sure about whether Jetbest offer a bulk delivery system. My contact at Jestbest is Vivi (vivi@jetbest.com). Mention my name if you like, I’m sure you’ll get all the info you need.

    Andre, I’m using full solvent ink. I order direct from Jetbest Taiwan – great customer service and very fast DHL shipping.

    Also, while the Jetbest website does offer profiles for their inks, I would recommend having a new ones done that are specific to your system/media setup. There’s a few ICC profiling services available where they send you colour chart files which you then print out, post back and receive an ICC profile based on your output charts. Does a great job and is quite inexpensive (cost me $20 per profile).

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    November 2, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Oops, double post 😕

  • Andre Woodcock

    Member
    November 3, 2007 at 7:08 am

    Thanks Bill,
    I intend to use the ECO ink, less smell i presume.

    Heng,
    Jetbest do have Bulk ink delivery systems and also very interesting prices for spares. Pls check
    http://www.jetbest.com/products/p6.htm

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    November 3, 2007 at 8:40 am

    Yes Andre, the eco ink would definitely have less smell, but obviously nowhere near as aggressive. One thing I’ve found with their solvent ink is that I no longer need to use any form of lamination for banners as it’s much more scratch resistant than my previous ink. And yes, their prices on spares are excellent. At $410 US for a JV3 head, that’s less than half the price I would pay for one here 😎

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    November 3, 2007 at 8:53 am

    Hey Bill,

    What bulk ink delivery system are you using?

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    November 3, 2007 at 11:35 am

    Hi Jason, I’m using an Easyfill Pro.

  • Heng

    Member
    November 3, 2007 at 3:23 pm
    quote Bill McMurtry:

    Hi Heng, I’m not Dave 😀 The ink is still performing exceptionally well – I’m very pleased with it. The change over went smoothy, I did a complete system flush and washed out my bulk containers, replaced all the dampers, and simply filled and primed the new ink. I’m not sure about whether Jetbest offer a bulk delivery system. My contact at Jestbest is Vivi (vivi@jetbest.com). Mention my name if you like, I’m sure you’ll get all the info you need.

    Andre, I’m using full solvent ink. I order direct from Jetbest Taiwan – great customer service and very fast DHL shipping.

    Also, while the Jetbest website does offer profiles for their inks, I would recommend having a new ones done that are specific to your system/media setup. There’s a few ICC profiling services available where they send you colour chart files which you then print out, post back and receive an ICC profile based on your output charts. Does a great job and is quite inexpensive (cost me $20 per profile).

    Hi Bill, My apologies for getting your name mixed up 😳 thanks so much for the update on the inks. I have emailed Vivi and she has replied very promptly. So they have both the eco and true solvent? I would prefer the solvent as well. How is the UV resistance like?

    Vivi sent a picture of their bulk ink system and it looks pretty good, mounted on the side of the machine but at the bottom.

    About the print head, $410 is a fantastic price. Did you get the head from Jetbest as well? It will be great then we can order inks and a spare head. Wonder if they sell the cleaning solutions and flush solutions as well. They are so expensive here.
    Thanks.
    Heng

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    November 3, 2007 at 9:39 pm

    Hi Heng, yes vivi is usually very prompt with the responses and advice. I haven’t bought a head from them yet as I’ve been paying the same price from a US contact, but they are the same epson heads. I installed one a couple of months back and it’s still firing perfectly – as should be expected.

    I’ve found that Jetbest prices on their spare parts are about 1/2 to 1/3 that of OEM. Another example is with dampers. Here I expect to pay about $45 for an OEM damper whereas the ones I buy from Jetbest are $16 US – and they are the same damper. Solvent flushing solution was costing me $90 per litre from my local supplier, I get the exact same stuff from Jetbest for $10 per litre. That’s a rediculous difference! Ask Vivi for a full list of spares and prices, you’ll be amazed.

    Only problem you might find is in getting a tech to fit spares that they don’t first sell to you. They usually won’t do it for good reason because if anything goes wrong they can rightly argue that your spare parts are at fault. Which is another reason why I decided to learn to do all my own work. Like I said on another thread, going non OEM and doing all your own maintenance and repairs isn’t for everyone. However, in a year if I go through 3 heads, 18 dampers (changed every 4 months), 36 litres of ink (3 litres per month), a couple of pumps, some wipers, etc, I save over 20 grand by doing my own work and sourcing non OEM ink and spares. That’s a lot of beer! 😀

  • Heng

    Member
    November 4, 2007 at 3:10 am

    Hi Bill,

    Will definitely ask Vivi for the full price list. I found the technicians manual for the head replacement which seem pretty straightforward. If you are interested, I can forward you a copy.

    Does Jetbest give the instructions for the flushing the system before using their product? Is the flushing solution the same as the one use for used for daily maintenance and head cleaning? Those cost $80 for a small bottle here. I will have to get those as well if Jetbest sells them.

    Will definitely do what you are doing and learn to maintain the machine myself. Just thinking of paying $1600 for the next lot of OEM ink is giving me a headache 😀 glad I found this thread!!

    Cheers
    Heng

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    November 4, 2007 at 4:25 am

    Hi Heng, I already have the head replacement procedure, but thanks anyway.

    Not sure if Jetbest will advise specifics on flushing your system, however, it’s pretty straightforward. Remove the dampers and clear the old ink from the lines with a syringe. Then push some flushing solution through the lines until they’re clean and then push or suck air through to clear the lines of flushing fluid. You should use a new set of dampers with the new ink. It’s also not a bad idea to do a gentle manual flush on each of the heads – slowly push about 3 ml of flushing fluid through each head via a clean damper (never put anything through a printhead unless it’s through a damper first) at a rate of about 1 ml per minute. When you install the new ink and connect the new dampers to the lines, pull the new ink up to each damper with a syringe until each is about half full, plug the dampers into the headcaps, perform a machine fill up and you should be set to go. If you don’t feel comfortable with all of this (there’s a heap of pain just waiting for a wrong move) then I would certainly recommend that you get someone experienced to do it for you.

    Yes, the flushing solution is the same as the one used for daily maintenance and cleaning – Jetbest sell it for $10 per litre.

    Just remember if you intend getting your hands dirty then you will invariably learn a heap of stuff the hard way. The upside might be greatly reduced operating costs and greater confidence in operating your machine. But the down side is the exact opposite of a good time when your complicated machine simply refuses to do what it should do, and you have no idea why 😮

  • Heng

    Member
    November 5, 2007 at 8:04 am

    Hi Bill,
    Thanks heaps for the tips on flushing. It will be my first time so will do it slowly. You are right, it is worth learning to do things without having to resort to calling a tech in all the time. At least then when something goes wrong, there won’t be any panic 🙂

    Cheers
    Heng

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    November 5, 2007 at 10:47 am

    When something goes wrong, there’s always panic :lol1:

  • Andre Woodcock

    Member
    November 5, 2007 at 2:49 pm

    Hi Bll,

    Tekstlogo mentioned earlier and also on other forums that Jetbest full solvent ink dries up in the pump tubes, Have you check yours since lately?

    Thanks

    Andre

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    November 5, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    Hi Andre, nope, not a problem for me. I think Tekslogo was using eco solvent ink in a machine that wasn’t set up for it. He mentioned that he had to change the tubing in his pumps. He also mentioned that the ink in his pump lines dried up when the printer had been switched off for some time. That’s not how my full solvent JV3 works, it’s never off and it runs regular automatic cleaning routines, no chance of ink drying in the pump lines unless something isn’t working properly.

  • different

    Member
    January 16, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Hi Bill.
    Firstly i want to congratulate you for your courage and spirit for truing all alone to support your printers. We are the same as you! My name is Stanislav and I’m from Bulgaria. Excuse me for my bad English but i wanted to write you myself. We bought one Mimaki JV3 in the middle of 2007 and the nightmares began! We went trough every available problem that can happen on this printer! Our tech engineers was newbies because the company that delivered the printer to us just started ti import Mimaki in Bulgaria. Half an year i was sleeping with the manual and now i can say that i can make a new business in my company – support for Miamki JV3 🙂 The tech did not know nothing!!!
    Now – the reason that i join this forum is that we found Jet best Corporation in google and started to buy items from them – heads, dampers and everything from the spare parts that they offer. Now we want to buy solvent inks for Mimaki JV3. The previous inks made all the problems that we experienced this far. They was MARA JET from Marabu.
    They was highly aggressive and all the O-rings on the ink system in time began to solidate and become not elastic and smaller! For example the rubbers between the head adapters(cappings) and the head become smaller and the connection becomes not hermetized. The ink flow from the dumper to the head stops and when the ink in the head flows the head goes dry. We change the inks with ecosolvent inks "Sericol" but we don’t have strong pigment and when we try to make strong red for example in the profile we push the ink to 100% bu the result is strong color but dots and banding because of too much ink. We tried to print on higher temperature – 60 C but some anomalies occurred on the image – lines and etc.
    Can you tell me from your experience with solvent inks from Jet Best are this inks good? Are they too aggressive? They are cheep i know but how is their strongnest for the colors. How is their scratch resistance because on Mara Jet the scratch resistance is very poor and on Sericol is better but not good enough.

    And one last thing – this problems with the heads where more common with the Magenta color. We change for 3 mounts 7 heads!!! And any time firs is Magenta! We print 2 weeks with sericol and for now we don’t have problems but the image is very poor. With Mara jet was perfect but the heads goes KAPUT every time.
    I will wait for some answer and if you are interested to give me some email for discussion between me and you for exchange some experience for this printers and other problems.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    January 21, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Hi Stanislav and sorry for the late reply, I’m just back from 5 days in Melbourne watching some great tennis at the Aussie Open 😀

    So far, I can only say good things about Jetbest solvent ink. I was using Sericol solvent before I made the switch. As stated already, Jetbest scratch resistance seems somewhat better than Sericol. Colour seems about equivalent after profiling the Jetbest setup.

    As far as problems with the heads… well I haven’t had any problems yet after running the new ink for a little over 3 months now. The ink system seems very stable and consistent. Never heard of Mara jet ink, I guess it’s one to stay away from if your experience is any indication.

    Good to hear from another JV3 nerd. I’m sure your advice and experience will be appreciated here by all – welcome to the boards mate 😀

  • different

    Member
    January 21, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Hello Bill.
    Can you tell me the brand of the pvc folio that you use?
    One of my problems is white dots on the dark sectors on the image. I think that this problem is from condense on the nozzle surface. When i print on high temperature the dots almost disappear but banding appears.
    Nothing changes when i perform "Int. wiping".
    I’m using ecosolvent Sericol. When i print on special media for ecosolvent inks the there is no problem. But the material is more expensive!
    Do you experience problem like this? On what temperature do you print?

    Thank you for your answer:) If you need some information from me just ask me and i will provide it.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    January 21, 2008 at 10:05 pm

    Hi Stanislav, yes the small pin point white dots in solid colour areas. I use Orajet 3165G (46C pre & 48C print) and had not come across the problem until the beginning of my last new roll. I too thought there might be something wrong with the printer, but about 10 Metres into the roll the problem disappeared. If I print to some saved pieces of vinyl from the beginning of the roll, I can see the white dots again. I therefore conclude that it’s a problem with media contamination.

    EDIT: dust particles on the media are the usual cause of white spots in heavy ink areas.

    I’m sure it’ll be only a matter of time before things aren’t running as smoothly as they are now and I’ll ask your advice on a JV3 mystery of my own 😀

  • Steve Holden

    Member
    January 23, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    All very interesting stuff Bill, thanks for taking the time to keep this post going, well done 😀
    Please keep us posted

    Steve

  • davidprice

    Member
    February 11, 2008 at 1:26 am

    Hi Bill
    Just joined this forum after reading all your posts about jetblast ink.
    I have just bought a 2nd hand JV3.
    I would like to use these inks based on your experience with these inks.
    I also have a JV2 running OEM TS inks which print great.
    I have used Chinese ink in the past on the basis that it was a 3 year UV, but the prints faded within 6 months, so I went back to OEM inks.
    How are you finding the UV factor in Australia as I’m based in Geelong?
    Also you may be able to help me as the cleaning function seems to be noisy and makes a loud clicking noise.
    I am comparing this cleaning function to a JV2 as I have not heard a jV3 clean before.
    Is this noise normal?
    Regards David

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    February 11, 2008 at 10:18 am

    Hi David, welcome to the boards.

    I’ve been using Jetbest solvent ink since the beginning of October, that’s only about 4 months. I obviously have no useful experience when it comes to long term UV resistance. Although I have to say that Jetbest haven’t let me down on performance to date so I have every confidence that I’ll get a good run in the Sun 😀

    The pumps on my JV3 make a loud clicking noise too – pretty normal as long as they’re pumping.

    I’m sure Vivi at Jetbest will look after you. Don’t forget to let us know how you go.

  • attomoka

    Member
    March 6, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Bill

    I have read all your replies and I really appreciate your sharing experience on using jetbest.

    Well, I just place an order to buy jetbest pigment ink for my JV3-160sp. I’d really appreciate any tutorial on replacing dampers on JV3-160sp.

    help is needed asap.

    regards to all

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    March 16, 2008 at 11:34 am

    Sorry, I must have missed the above post. Replacing a damper is a matter of disconnecting the ink line and carefully unplugging the damper from the headcap spigot, then plugging in the new damper and reconnecting the ink line.

    It worries me that you ask for instructions on such a basic procedure. Good luck and get ready for some interesting learning experiences (read pain) when things invariably don’t go exactly to plan 😮

  • Andre Woodcock

    Member
    March 17, 2008 at 4:54 am

    Hi Bill,
    Met Vivi from the Sign & Graphic Middle East Trade Show in Dubai. I managed to buy New Print heads and Cap tops from her @ US$420 each. Vivi was very please to learn that I’ve known you from the Signboard " One of her favorite custom" and she sends her regards. Bill are you still using your previous icc profile with the jestbest ink? How are the results?

    Andre

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    March 17, 2008 at 6:39 am

    Hi Andre, thanks for the mention. Vivi is a pleasure to deal with 😀

    When I first changed over to Jetbest ink I found everything was printing very red compared to my previous output. The solution was to have a new profile done for the new ink setup. The results after plugging in the new profile were, and still are, outstanding.

    If anyone is interested in a profiling service then I can highly recommend getting in contact with mod-edit (I have no affiliation whatsoever) Jody’s profiles are inexpensive ($20 each), the service was excellent, and the results are spot on. Jody emails you 4 colour chart files which you print out and post back to her. She then creates an icc profile which she emails to you. You then plug the icc file into your output colour management and the result is excellent colour output. So simple.

  • attomoka

    Member
    March 22, 2008 at 10:01 am
    quote Bill McMurtry:

    Sorry, I must have missed the above post. Replacing a damper is a matter of disconnecting the ink line and carefully unplugging the damper from the headcap spigot, then plugging in the new damper and reconnecting the ink line.

    It worries me that you ask for instructions on such a basic procedure. Good luck and get ready for some interesting learning experiences (read pain) when things invariably don’t go exactly to plan 😮

    Thanks Bill

    Replacing dampers might be basic procedure for you but not necessarily for a beginner like me. We have to start some where any how and this experience may be a good start.

    I will let you know how I progress with this experiment.

    thanks again.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    March 22, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    No worries mate, starting somewhere is how it is. Just remember that the plastic headcap spigots are fairly delicate and you should take care removing and replacing the dampers. Applying too much lateral pressure on it can result in it snapping off or cracking at the base. While headcaps are only a $25 3rd party replacement part which can be bought and fitted separately (OEM part is a full head replacement though!), you have to remove the printer head carriage to fit it and you really don’t want that to be one of your early learning experiences. Just take care and I’m sure you’ll be fine.

  • attomoka

    Member
    April 6, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Bill

    I forgot to change the ink cartridge size from ss2 to ss. So, I’m now stuck on inserting ss2 (440ml) cartridge instead of ss (220ml). SO I’d appreciate any help on resetting cartridge size to ss (220ml).

    I’ve done all steps correctly, except this one.

    please help asap.

    Moka

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    April 6, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Hi Moka, sorry mate I have no help for you on that one, I use an external bulk tank system.

  • davidprice

    Member
    April 7, 2008 at 12:20 am

    Hi Bill
    How is the run in the sun going.
    Is the black a real deep black.
    These OEM inks I’m using are costing me a fortune.

    Regards

    David

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    April 7, 2008 at 3:38 am

    Well David, I keep my eye on two 4m x 1M banners I put up around the time I switched ink, one was printed with my previous solvent (Sericol) and the other was printed with Jetbest solvent. Both are unlaminated and both face North and are in direct sun all day long. Both prints look as good as the day they were put up.

    Mind you, that’s only about 6 months in direct Summer Sun. However, there’s every indication to date that the Jetbest product is at least as UV tolerant as any other good quality pigment ink. That’s all I could ask for 😀

  • attomoka

    Member
    April 7, 2008 at 4:47 am

    Thanks Bill for your early response.

  • davidprice

    Member
    April 7, 2008 at 5:31 am

    Thank you also Bill for the quick reply.
    I have decided to bite the bullet and go with Jetbest ink.
    After all, the last time I used Chinese ink they had faded heaps after 6 months so if it is not obvious after 6 months then they can’t be too bad.
    I have a service manual for a JV3 1600s in PDF format if this is help full to Moka
    Regards
    David

  • attomoka

    Member
    April 7, 2008 at 7:28 am

    David
    Thanks in advance. I’m sure service manual would do me
    great. Please send to mod-edit please read board rules
    cheers

    Moka

  • attomoka

    Member
    April 8, 2008 at 10:48 am

    thanks

    problem solved.

    now color profiling issue?

  • attomoka

    Member
    April 10, 2008 at 9:07 am

    Found one of my old icc profiles to work realy great with jetbest ink.

    Printing quality is super, better than my previous ink (ITL).

    so far I’m very impresed as Bill was on his first quality print
    :lol1: .

    join the crowd quality + price = jetbest. 😀

    greets to all.

    Moka

  • NTC

    Member
    April 10, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Ive just received mine at $540 or about £285 for 6 gal of ink plus 1gal of flush can’t be bad.
    Only problem I found was the money needed to be wired to them pain having to go in to the branch to do this no card or paypal set up..

  • davidprice

    Member
    August 7, 2008 at 5:56 am

    Hi All
    Just checking to see if everyone is still happy with the jetbest ink.
    How is the UV going?
    Regards
    David

  • Mark Nihotte

    Member
    August 7, 2008 at 8:05 am

    Since changing to Jet Best, my previous supplier has come to the party with bulk supply at a reasonable rate. So now I am using my original inks for good work (saves having to set up new profiles) and the Jest Best for real estate and show/short term signs. Too soon for UV test results for me (have a mate doing an accelerated UV test) but only difference to the other ink is slightly longer drying time and more vibrant reds & blues plus a real ‘black’ black.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    August 8, 2008 at 1:02 am

    Hi David, still very happy with my Jetbest setup. Uncoated banners still looking great after almost a year in the Sun.

    Mark, I look forward to hearing the results of the accelerated UV test.

  • davidprice

    Member
    September 29, 2008 at 8:48 am

    Hi Mark. Any word about the accelerated UV test on the jet best inks.
    Regards
    David

  • leerees

    Member
    February 5, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    Just moved over to jetbest, was previously on digitl, colours all seem to be as good as before, I noticed we got a little overspray on the digitl ink if the head height was set to high (a requirement for banner), this does not happen with the jetbest so that’s a huge bonus.

    Running a VJ-1604

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    February 5, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Lee
    what ITL ink was you using & what was the reason for change

    Kev

  • leerees

    Member
    February 6, 2009 at 11:46 am

    I was using their eco solvent inks. It was actually my supplier who initiated the change of inks so I’m not 100% certain as to why we have changed.

    I do personally prefer jetbest as we no longer get overspray on banners.

  • stanislav_is

    Member
    March 20, 2009 at 7:36 am

    Hi Bill:)
    Can you post the exact jetbest ink that you use – solvent or ecosolvent ?

    Thank you.

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    March 20, 2009 at 8:15 am

    Hi Stanislav,

    I use Jetbest full solvent ink in my JV3.

  • davidprice

    Member
    April 28, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Hi Bill.
    It’s been 4 months for me using Jetbest. Saving heaps.
    Colors so vibrant compared to OEM TS ink.
    It’s been 18 months for you, hows the UV going?
    Especially on SAV.
    Regards
    David

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    April 28, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Good to hear David. I couldn’t be happier with the ink, and especially the price.

    Funny you should mention it but today I drove by one of the first banners I printed with Jetbest ink. It’s spent about the last 18 months permanently fixed to the North face (sunny side in Oz) of a building and, besides a few bird poo hits, it looks as good as the day I installed it. Not bad for an uncoated print that’s fully exposed to the elements. If I can get 2 or 3 seasons from an uncoated banner with little or no noticable fading, then I’ll be a happy chappy. Half way there, check back in another 18 months…

  • davidprice

    Member
    September 4, 2009 at 7:25 am

    Hi Bill
    It’s David from Australia.
    I’m in a bit of a spot.
    I have let my ink run down and have almost run out of cyan.
    I have ordered and paid jetbest today but they will not send until the money goes into their account which will be Monday so it will take 4 to 5 days.
    You would not happen to have a spare 1lt cyan that I could borrow and replace when my order arrives.
    Regards
    David
    03 52552030

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    September 4, 2009 at 7:34 am

    Hi David,

    I only have 400ml of cyan in storage. Just about time for me to order too. Let me know if you need what I have: 0417 658 633

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    September 4, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    quote davidprice:

    Hi Bill
    It’s David from Australia.
    I’m in a bit of a spot.
    I have let my ink run down and have almost run out of cyan.
    I have ordered and paid jetbest today but they will not send until the money goes into their account which will be Monday so it will take 4 to 5 days.
    You would not happen to have a spare 1lt cyan that I could borrow and replace when my order arrives.
    Regards
    David
    03 52552030

    AGS sell jetbest if you are desperate

  • Bill McMurtry

    Member
    September 4, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Shane, I don’t mind helping David out. Besides, I think AGS only sell jetbest eco-solvent, and at about 10x markup I might add 😳

    How’s the weather in sunny Queensland. Forgot what blue sky looks like down here, it’s been cold and raining for most of the last 3 months! Still, it couldn’t be worse than Scotland :lol1:

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    September 5, 2009 at 9:34 am

    hi bill,

    we’ve had several over 30deg days here IN WINTER!! 😮

    Lovely days now tho. They reckon Spring is going to be hotter than usual, so its not looking good 😛

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