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  • does anyone know the lifespan for pigment ink?

    Posted by Warren Beard on January 18, 2010 at 10:29 am

    Hi All

    I have a few enquiries and possibility of a fair amount of work for Giclee prints, I have researched the internet for hours but cannot find anywhere which tell me the lifespan of the inks.

    There’s a lot of debate around it but would like to try find somewhere which states approx life span of pigment inks on Giclee prints.

    Anybody have any knowledge of this?

    cheers

    Warren

    Warren Beard replied 14 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 18, 2010 at 10:53 am

    i know your a hp man but might help

    http://www.hahnemuehle.com/media/42_pro … search.pdf

    chris

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    January 18, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Thanks Chris

    I got a Canon and I actually just phoned them and they wouldn’t even say if it was 2, 25 or 50 years. They wouldn’t risk giving any life span at all due to the many variables regarding the finished product.

    I think what you sent and a small bit I found online it will be enough to satisfy the customer.

    cheers

    Warren

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 18, 2010 at 11:24 am

    for the real stuff i use a acid free paper pigmented inks tell customer must be glass covered, and not to be displayed within 6 ft of windows, no direct sunlight.

    chris

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    January 18, 2010 at 11:44 am

    So do you do Giclee printing Chris? where do you get your paper from? I just use cheap stuff at the moment as it’s just for posters etc.

    cheers

    Warren

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    January 18, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    mainly been water colour copies for gallery sales

    arkona and willian turner papers from hahnemuhle.
    for photos a resin backed 225 gsm acid free photo satin paper last from AIT.

    i use a epson 9500

    chris

  • Lyle Knittig

    Member
    January 18, 2010 at 5:47 pm
    quote Warren Beard:

    Hi All

    I have a few enquiries and possibility of a fair amount of work for Giclee prints, I have researched the internet for hours but cannot find anywhere which tell me the lifespan of the inks.

    There’s a lot of debate around it but would like to try find somewhere which states approx life span of pigment inks on Giclee prints.

    Anybody have any knowledge of this?

    cheers

    Warren

    I am using a Roland FJ 42 to do canvas and photo prints. For canvas (100% cotton) they say you can get 75 – 100 year life. On photo papers if you want long life I would think the quality of paper would come into play with the life of the print. Also don’t use DYE inks as they won’t last as long and are not water resistant. So far from the different pigment inks I have read about all seem to be about the 75-100 year.

    Also for the canvas what you coat it with might have a lot to do with quality and final look. I use one that might be re-labeled. It says its Eco Gloss. I have actually for a test printed some on the solvent printer ( don’t get as good of result as in duller ) and coated with the same Eco Gloss and it bonds just fine.

  • Andre Woodcock

    Member
    January 20, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Hi Warren,
    There are many using Canon for Art repro. It is said that the Canon Lucia pigmented inks could last more than 25 years. It is also important that you use proper media such as Innova and Hanemuehle for long lasting prints

    http://www.colorprintingforum.com/mediu … e-126.html

    http://www.wilhelm-research.com/canon/W … _06_15.pdf

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    January 20, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Thanks guys, have emailed Hanemuehle and wait to hear from them so I can order if required. Have explained everything to the customers and they are happy to proceed.

    thanks again

    cheers

    Warren

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