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  • does anyone have tips for helping to reduce the static?

    Posted by Gary Birch on February 4, 2009 at 9:04 am

    Hi All
    Having had our Ezytaper 18months and always having a problem with static. especially when mounting onto Foamex.

    I was just wondering if anyone has any tips or ideas for helping to reduce the static you get when laminating or mounting with the ezytaper.

    Cheers

    Gary

    John Singh replied 15 years, 2 months ago 17 Members · 28 Replies
  • 28 Replies
  • Tim Painter

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 9:06 am

    Maybe Earthing the machine will help.

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 9:11 am

    Tim
    I had thought of that but the trouble is we move it around, depending on what we are doing and having to disconnect it would be a bit of a ball ache. I suppose we could get some kind quick connector to allow us to unplug it and plug it in elsewhere. I think I’ll try it first and see if it helps though.

    Thanks

    Gary

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 9:21 am

    Gary you can get straps that you use on benches etc for electronic assembly (That take me back) some are pads with flexible straps that go down to a base with a pop stud like used on clothing.

    Farnell or RS components etc. do them.

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 9:29 am

    I’ll have a look later and let you know how I get on.

    Cheers

    Gary

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 10:24 am

    three pin plug wired just on the earth and attached to the machine?
    And if you are worried about safety just remove the other pins

    Peter

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 11:00 am

    Peter
    This may sound like a daft question but is this ok to do??? I mean do I just plug it into a socket??

    Logic tells me this is ok but I ain’t no sparky 🙄

    Thanks

    Gary

  • Tim Painter

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Gary the static straps you can buy from RS etc go back to a mains socket which only has an Earth wire connected.

    Simple answer is YES.

    You may be able to buy a plug with an Earth pin and plastic pins for the other 2.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 11:27 am

    I always (when using foamex) spray the coating with a misting of water THEN strip it (reduces static by about 75%) by pulling in from all sides to ‘bundle it up’.

    THEN with a damp (almost dry) cloth / paper handroll – run round the edges getting rid of all of the bits.

    Earthing your machine – just a wire from the chassis of the machine to ONLY the earth pin of a plug…or you’ll get shocking results.

    You can’t eliminate static entirely on the cheap, but it will make a huge difference compared to nothing.

    Dave

  • Nigel Hindley

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 11:41 am

    We do exactly as David does.

    We actually cut, sand, saw, drill, jigsaw all types of materials, weed and tape up all vinyls in the same room due to limited space.

    We just use water and hand towels and this eliminates the problems and produce dust free signs – no problem – when you mist the boards you can see any dust literally drop off, – we lightly mist the floor and worktops and this stops the static and dust lifting.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 11:51 am

    Is your work area carpeted Gary? The reason why I ask is our last place was carpeted and we suffered a lot from static – to the extent that I couldn’t remove protective film from Forrex without getting a shock.

    Getting rid of the carpet solved the problems we were having.

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Thanks for you advice on this one guys. I will try and do as suggested and let you know how we get on.

    Phill
    No it is a polished concrete floor. The last place was carpeted and I though it would help when we moved but I haven’t noticed much of a change to be honest. Having said that we have had a run on foamex mounted print so are probably noticing it more.

    Thanks again

    Gary

  • Gill Harrison

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    Hi Gary

    We use anti-static tinsel its made from copper and if you do a search you will find a few suppliers, It doesn’t totally stop the problem but does reduce the strenght of belt you get, and for some reason you chaps do seem to suffer more than us girls 🙄 its a pain thresh hold thing :lol1:
    If you attach one end to the frame and allow the other to trail on the floor then your kit will still be portable, just make sure its tucked under out of sight so you don’t get too many wise cracks regarding left over decorations and also so nobody trips.

    Anythings worth a try

    Gill

  • Michael Hartley

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Try running a humidifier, or vaporizer, it will help some.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    February 4, 2009 at 8:54 pm
    quote Michael Hartley:

    Try running a humidifier, or vaporizer, it will help some.

    Will that not also wreck your vinyl stock and cause possible damage to you PC?

  • Michael Hartley

    Member
    February 5, 2009 at 12:07 am

    No, it’s just putting some moisture back in the air, not saturating it.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    February 5, 2009 at 12:19 am

    with all the damp in the air at the moment we have to run a dehumidifier

    Chris

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    February 5, 2009 at 12:33 am

    Apply wet that Will solve everything!

    :lol1:

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    February 10, 2009 at 8:56 am

    Thank you to Gill from William Smiths for sending me the tinsel. I now have it attached and while it has made a difference it still produces static. However with that and spraying with water before removing the protective cover makes it so much better.

    Just a thanks to all who helped me on this and sorry for not buying anything from you Gill when you visited. Next time I promise I will. 😀

    Cheers

    Gary

  • alan flynn

    Member
    February 10, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    hello all,
    in the old days when i used to just work with a brush, when i was sign writing perspex i would always run a leather over the panel, never had any problems then,
    if i did not do it you could see the paint tracking off,
    this was mainly when doing truck headboards so may prove harder on larger panels,
    regards
    Alan Flynn

  • rob haydock

    Member
    February 18, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    i’ll be trying water in future…have used anti-static liquid in past

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    February 18, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    While it has helped with static it hasn’t helped enough so we will be earthing it in the near future.

    Cheers

    Gary

  • John Gregson

    Member
    February 18, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    Put a metal bar from said machine to the floor. It used to work when we screen printed and racked rigid pvc sheets.

    Cheers John

  • Brian Maher

    Member
    February 18, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    we used the static strips you get from the auto-factors for vans and have them trail to the floor, not fully eliminated but reduced the sting a good bit 🙂

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    February 18, 2009 at 10:52 pm
    quote John Gregson:

    Put a metal bar from said machine to the floor. It used to work when we screen printed and racked rigid pvc sheets.

    used to do the same too john 😀

    also i think ive mentioned this before, put a wee bit of washing-up liquid in a litre of water and spray onto surface and wipe off, the guy i used to do work for who made correx sheeting, told me this wee secret and it does work 😀

    nik

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    February 18, 2009 at 11:22 pm

    I believe I have found the answer. 😮

    I have devised a protective clothing device that the operator should wear to protect him or her from shocks caused by static. I believe I have thought of everything – this clothing device even includes special pincer gloves to aid with the weeding process 😕

    I hope to have this in production in time to launch at the UK sign show this year

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    February 19, 2009 at 7:37 am

    Thanks for the tips guys, especially Phill, have you decided on branding yet? I reckon there is an opening there :lol1: a full wrap maybe

    The sting has been removed now it with the earthing tinsel or seems that way.

    Cheers

    Gary

  • Rodney Gold

    Member
    February 20, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    The only way to eliminate static is to use an ionising air gun , we work with perspex all the time and static is a problem , the gun works extermely well and albeit it wasnt cheap , has paid its way many times over
    http://www.meech.com/ProductGroup.aspx?id=39
    or
    http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en00 … utput_html

  • John Singh

    Member
    February 20, 2009 at 4:36 pm
    quote Phill:

    I believe I have found the answer. 😮

    I have devised a protective clothing device that the operator should wear to protect him or her from shocks caused by static. I believe I have thought of everything – this clothing device even includes special pincer gloves to aid with the weeding process 😕

    I hope to have this in production in time to launch at the UK sign show this year

    Great Idea Phill
    There’s plenty of room for branding too
    Looks like a hefty charge for suit this though

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