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do you think this is a cheap x3 version?
Just bought this on ebay (looks cosher)
seems like a good buy?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COREL-DRAW-13-GRA … dZViewItem
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gotta be a catch some where ist only out in the uk last week.
knocked off? 🙄
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its the educational version sold to students/teachers
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Will let you know when and if I get it, Buyer has good rating is paypal protected. So thought it was worth risking.
Peter
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so im a teacher and and a student on the boards dave,
I’m legit!
Peter
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I know (over here at least), the student version is a full version, the only difference is you are unable to update it when a newer version comes out. I am about to buy the Adobe CS2 suite. It is only $400 and includes Photoshop, illustrator, in-design, etc. To upgrade normally from cs1 Illustrator and Photoshop is about $340 so for $60 more I am getting all the programs.
The downside, like I said is when a newer version is released you will not be able to update your version. You will have to buy the whole program again.
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I just checked my college bookstore and it is $99.98 USD over here for X3. I might buy it to learn the program. I have never used Corel, just Adobe programs.
http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=11911253
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Marek in the description it does say future upgrades will be available, perhaps corel is different from Illustrator, which is far more expensive to start with,
Peter
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Yeah, I saw that. I guess you will find out when X4 comes out. 😀
Couldn’t you just get the upgrade to X3 cheaper than buying the full version though?
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dont Know why they called it x3, its really corel 13, perhaps they are supertitious?.
Peter
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Thanks nik, so I paid £4 more, but I didnt seem to be able to actually buy it from the link you posted?
Peter
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Do you have to prove you are a student/teacher?
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quote Nick Minall:Do you have to prove you are a student/teacher?
peter didnt, he had his school boy uniform on when he bid and lynn stood behind with her cloak & flexing her cane…. 😉 :lol1:
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😀 😀 😀 😀
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😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😀
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Peter I bought mine from this site and I must say it all looks legit. had mine for a week now and very pleased with it. 😀
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Peter thanks for that,
I was almost certain it was a legit site, thanks for confirmingThe other Peter
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Theres no manuals just a box with a disc
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yep, you dont get manuals or extras with the education version
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Do you get the clip art? I notice that vehicle oulines are now included, not that I need any, but just wondered if they are any good.
Its still good value compared with the download version. (no books and stuff)
Peter
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Yes Peter clip art, vehicle outlines (I don’t know how good they are),
1000 fonts and some wg something or other fonts photo’s, borders and all sorts of goodies -
free toaster? 😉
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quote Dave Rowland:yep, you dont get manuals or extras with the education version
Oops, so how are you supposed to be educated without the books….Suppose you have to go to the school library?
Peter
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Come on Peter if you are a teacher you are supposed to know it all anyway.
You have to work on your cover 008.😎
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quote Dave Rowland:yep, you dont get manuals or extras with the education versionWho needs manuals when we have people like you around Dave?.
😉
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Peter, should you really need the books they can be bought separately from Corel, not sure you can upgrade from an educational version but if you have a previous version upgrade from that in future. X3 now has ‘hints’ as well as the normal help but if you are used to Corel you will pick it up easily, it is mainly the typesetting/printing (litho) bits which have been really vamped up although the enhanced filters will benefit everyone. Regarding clip art goto http://www.unleash.com and search for Romcat this is a free utility which will enable you to catalogue the clipart. Added VBA available (some free – all useful) from http://www.oberonplace.com I have a couple here signmakers would find useful but I don’t think I’m alowed to post them here, if you find me on the web I’ll send them.
Alan D
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I use to buy the full version for about £79 ligit for 3 or 4 years as a member of a Coral User group in the UK sadly the group dissapeared.
Maybe the boards should look at buying deals with software co’s??
Tim.
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Don’t want to be a party pooper, but I think If you qualify for Student/Teacher editions they are not to be used for commercial use i.e. you are no longer using them in a Student or Teacher situation.
I will stand corrected, but I am sure this is how the Licence reads.
Tony
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Tony, I am not going to use it for commercial reasons, I will use it to help me with design and photo editing, I may of course save or export some stuff to use in signlab.
Peter
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Here we go again………….
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Peter
I know where you are coming from, but do be careful, Corel may not see it that way.
As one of the 0.001% of software buyers who do not qualify for Student/Teacher Licence, I find it frustrating. I have just bought Adobe Creative Suite for a new PC set up – over £800. I could have bought the Student Version for £119. I already have the software on My Mac!!!
I am a photographer, and I own the Copyright on all images I produce. I make my money from people buying re-prints. But I have been ripped off by people scanning pictures and printing them on their cheap home printers with non-OEM inks on photocopying paper. Not how I wish my ‘Product’ to be displayed.
Because I rely on copyright being enforced for my business, I should not flaunt the copyright of others. As many of us realise, when buying software we are not paying for the DVD that cost 50p, we are paying for the Licence or right to use it. Pay for a small licence, don’t use it for commercial. Pay for a full licence, no problems.
I had a short spell with another sign making company a few years back. He had 5 computers, all with every version of every possible graphic program. If I had to set up that system it would cost – I don’t know, £50,000.00. I don’t think this guy paid £50,000.00 to set up his computers. I am approaching an investment of around £20,000.00 so far and I bet he beats me on price of a job every time! It’s not fair, but I know I sleep soundly at night by doing the right thing.
Tony
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If he is not generating significant income or using the program in a full commercial environment , why should he not take advantage of the student deal
In fact why is there a 2 tiered type payment structure – surely students that use Corel are going to earn more cos of their knowledge? Why should they get it cheaper ?
If corel have decided to release a limited version without the extras , there is no way that they can police who uses it. Either you pay less for a version with less utility or pay more for the full version.
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Rodney & Peter
Please do not think I am trying to ‘convict without trial’. Peter’s use may very well be within Corels Student Licence. I know full well some people run Student licences for commercial practices, and I am stating it is wrong. Fairness does not come into it. Yes the software companies charge too much for it, but you must use it within the licence.
It is a bit like having to pay for a BBC TV licence in the UK. “I only watch Channel 4” is not an excuse not to pay, you still get fined anyway.
All I am really saying is amke sure no one can point the finger at you. On this forum, surely most people who saw this thread actually fall into the commercial sector, so cannot purchase this particular product at this price. I know I can’t.
Tony
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Tony,
there is nothing to stop you purchasing it, I look at it as tax avoidence rather than tax evasion. The source on ebay is apparently an authourised corel reseller, so its up to corel to sort it out if he is breaking the rules.
I read a bit on corels site, academic use is quite a wide area, it includes parents of children and friends and charities, and it is not restricted to non commercial use, as far as I could quickly make out.I will register the software in acorrdance with corels instruction, so corel will have the opportunity to reject or restrict the use.
I am totally against pirate software, but if I can save some money, without breaking the rules I will.
When I get the software I will read the T & Cs (I did try and find them on corels site but couldnt) and let you know if I can use the program.
Peter
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quote Signs & Wonders:Rodney & PeterIt is a bit like having to pay for a BBC TV licence in the UK. “I only watch Channel 4” is not an excuse not to pay, you still get fined anyway.Tony
we all know thats a rip off, i pay the full licence yet watch a total of about 5hrs tv a week, and most of that i pay extra for thru satellite 😕 yet some lazy ass who watches 100hrs+ of tv a week gets more value for money than I, who HAS to pay it regardless of what i use or watch, i dont have a choice, 😮
where-as……
quote Signs & Wonders:I know I can’t.Tony
you can, you just don’t,
with respect, Tony, you have very high moral standards, which in principal i agree with, but when i started out with nothing but a few grand in the bank, a full kit wasnt an option, infact, it wasnt even known to me there was a difference, i just saw it and bought it, only once i had it did i know it was ‘educational’, still… i registered it in the correct manner.
since i still have a long way to go to becoming what i consider to be ‘an accomplished sign maker’, then i am very much a student with many masters.
regards. Hugh
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I can’t help but think software companies do a ‘student’ version, as they feel that may cut down on borderline software pirates…
e.g. someone might not be able to afford £500 for software to start with, but £80 they’ll pay, rather than obtain a completely ‘pirate’ version.
(?) (?) 😕PS – Some of my software is educational, but I am a qualified home teacher anyways, and we home school our kids.
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I have had the full proper version of Corel Draw from Version 8, when that was £375 I think. I upgraded to Version 11 a while back. I also have a full legitimate copy of Painter as well and upgrades. Over £1,000 to Corel over the years.
Now to upgrade my Corel Draw to X3 will cost me £175 but to buy the full education version will be £85. As they say ‘you do the maths’. My son goes to school and my partner works for a charity. Guess which version I am buying (that’s if my Sign Tools 3 plug in works!). They also stuffed me by dropping the Mac version after version 11.
Don’t get me started on Rip Off Britain. If we could buy software at the prices in USA then it would be fine. The upgrade in USA is $170 which is £95 at current rates.
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The real issue is the “bulldust” students version , that is a real stupid policy and is totally open to what Corel might call abuse and we might call minimising expenses without piracy.
The better way of doing things is what Adobe do with photoshop , you can buy the full package or PS elements which is much cheaper and includes most of what anyone would need barring real power pros. Corel should offer a “lite” version. I upgraded my Corel but if I didnt have Corel , I would have no compunction whatsoever or feel any guilt by getting the students version……Everyday i read these boards , I learn something new ……I *AM* a student 😉 -
I think Corel sell the student/teacher one so they will want to use it when they start working, and carry on buying it.
Nick.
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Does anyone regularly use both illustrator and corel ? I am a corel fanatic – love it. I bought illustrator just to help with mac files from customers, but it seems so awkward to use.
What do you guys think?
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Another cheaper option and totally legit way is to by an earlier unregistered verson and upgrade it, did this from photoshop 5 to 7 and now I have upgraded to CS2, I am fully registered with Adobe and can use their software for any purpose I like commercial or otherwise without worry.
I have also just bought the Acaemic version of Corel draw X3 as I have just come to the end of a 15 day trial and would like to see more of it, if however I dont like it I have wasted £65 rather than £300.
My girlfriend is a qualified teacher so therefore entitled to buy it.
(£65 is trade price I also own a computer shop)
If I get on well with it I shall of course buy the full retail version.
As mentioned above buying an academic version you are entitled to is far better than using a cracked copy from the many that are freely available on the internet, Youd be surprised to learn just how many competitors ARE using pirate software, I know many computer shops that put dodgy copies of windows on peoples computers and actually use them in their own shops!
up to a £50,000 fine from FACT? no thanks,
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If I buy corel x3 and teach some of the young staff i employ how to use it do i come under the teacher bracket? If i buy it for one of the youngsters i employ who is on day release at college to use is that legal?The list of uses is endless! as has been said i think corel sell it as a student teacher package to eat into the pirate software market
just my 10 bobs worth i still havent bought it yet but am leaning to the cheaper option
George
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D Major, do you use the free Oberon VBA which allows you to cut and paste corel Draw drawings into Illustrator and vice versa?
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How is everyone getting on with Corel X3? I am using 12, wonder whether it is worth upgrading? I have tried the trial but it expired ages ago.
Peter Norm.. who was the seller on eBay of the educational version please? That seems cheaper than the upgrade!! 😮
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Worth upgrading, Amazon selling Academic version for abuot £73 delivered UK.
James
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Thanks James, seems more legit buying it from Amazon than eBay. Think I will give it a try.
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the ebay sell was well legit, I posted the link in the first post, Buy the cheapest by all means, but it should not be used commercially (whatever that means) 😉
Peter
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Yes I used that link Peter, trying to find a current auction. I have a couple of full price Corel’s and Painter XI. The upgrade should only be £99, if it was I would buy that, but as it’s more I am going for the student edition.
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the shop is still open, and I recieved my copy next day. now £69
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COREL-DRAW-X3-GRA … dZViewItem
Peter
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