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  • Do you expect extra material from Sub-Contractees?

    Posted by Frederick McLean on October 21, 2022 at 8:48 am

    Hi Troops.

    what are everyone’s expectations/thoughts on getting extra material supplied from a subcontractee?
    Got a job with hundreds of etch vinyl dots creating a shaped wave and didn’t get any spare what-so-ever.
    Obviously have missed some taking off backing/app tape, and they now expect us to pay for extra from them!
    We don’t have the same material and what we do have is a different shade so stands out like a sore thumb.

    Thoughts please.
    F

    Jeff replied 1 month, 1 week ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • John Thomson

    Member
    October 21, 2022 at 9:01 am

    I would have expected spares supplied in case of any fitting or sizing issues to allow the job to be completed on time……….much easier than producing/fitting more later on.

    john

  • David Hammond

    Member
    October 21, 2022 at 10:07 am

    I’m assuming you were the subcontract installer?

    “Obviously have missed some taking off the backing…”

    Not so obvious, what’s to say they weren’t missed when someone else weeded the graphics?

    Do you have any terms and conditions in place?

    We use subbies, I’ve subbed for some big companies and most are useless, to the point I don’t do trade work.

    We look after our subbies, pay them well, and timely, and they look after us. I’d produce overs, or send some spare material with them. Sometimes I even call before printing if there’s any questions to make sure it’s produced how they want it.

    I wouldn’t be expecting the installer to replace material, accidents happen. The exception being, if they did a survey and provided the sizes and it’s wrong!

  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    October 21, 2022 at 10:14 am

    We send out work to sub contractors, and send extra material to cover overs, if they need it Any re is returned with the job. If subbing for another company, we would expect to have a bit of extra material to cover snags. If they don’t send extra material, we tell them that it would be an extra set-up to cover any snags, should they arise.

  • Craig Thompson

    Member
    October 21, 2022 at 11:40 am

    Always supply extra… If I’m doing a job further than next door I take spare with me, amount of times I’ve cut a new letter by hand by taking a rubbing with pencil / crayon on site… saved my a**e on many occasions…..

  • Frederick McLean

    Member
    October 21, 2022 at 12:20 pm

    Thanks for all the replies guys.

    David: No terms in place, dont often do sub-contract work, was expecting(stupidly)spare material as there was hundreds/thousands of dots!, will have for next time.

    Good point about being missing when weeded tho ๐Ÿ™‚

    F

    • David Hammond

      Member
      October 21, 2022 at 1:40 pm

      My experience of doing sub-contract work, is they either don’t have a freaking clue what they’re doing hence pass it on to you, and you’re expected to be some kind of miracale worker on site. OR it’s pain in the backside job, and they intend making it your problem. Some would say I’m cynical ๐Ÿ˜‚

      I heard of a subcontractor who was sent from Manchester to Birmingham, got there and the company they were working for forgot a panel. They insisted he drove back to collect it, and return back to Birmingham. As he was charging “day rate” they tried to hold him to it. I know what my answer would have been ๐Ÿคฏ

  • Jeff

    Member
    October 24, 2022 at 9:48 am

    if the graphic has hundreds of dots, lines or whatever. you have to ask… “why would you not have extras??” But to then charge you for some extra dots on their installation? ๐Ÿคจ
    i understand wasted panels/prints by a subcontractor must be charged, but still.