Different brands of ‘air release / escape’ wrap vinyl

[Jon Marshall]

There’s an Imageperfect one from Spandex which is quite well priced.

[Chris Wool]

william smith has some deal on at the moment

[David McDonald]

Thank you both.

Yep will give the 3M William Smith offer a go

Cheers
Macky

[Carol Davies]

🙁 any feedback on this 3m IJ180CV3 product????

[Martin Pearson]

David, not that it makes a lot of difference to me as I don’t print inhouse but why the need to change urgently??

Just so I can make a mental note if I need to buy in any printed graphics.

[David McDonald]

Hi Martin

We had been using Oracal 3951 Rapid Air for non-recess wraps with excellent results but two full rolls in as many days were faulty and had to go back and I’ve vehicles waiting in the workshop, I understand that there was a batch problem and they won’t have fresh stock for 3 weeks. If the problem is corrected I’ll go back to it unless in the mean time I like the IJ180CV3 so much that I decide to stay with it and pay the higher price when the current offer ends – at the very least I’ll stock up whilst the current offer is on.

Cheers
Macky

[David McDonald]

Hi Carol

The IJ180cv3 is very good. I found is easier to stretch around wing mirrors than 3951RA but the air release doesn’t work as well as the 3951RA (although still very good). I also thought the look of the finished wrap was slightly better with 3951RA which looks just like paintwork whereas the 180 seems to a get a few more application marks in it – nothing serious at all though (may be its slightly softer material?).

Overall the I thought 180 handles slightly better – just felt easier and quicker to get on. The only thing I didn’t like about it was it is a little bit more ‘chewy’, Can’t think of a better way to describe it but it means that you can’t cut it well with anything but a brand new scalpel blade and not whilst its still warm. Not a major problem though.

Overall honours exactly even. I will continue to buy the cheapest of the two subject to my current bad batch problem on the 3951RA being sorted out. The current offer price is excellent on the 180.

Cheers
Macky

[Stuart Whitehouse]

Hi

Would you think the ij180 or the 3951ra would cope with small recesses – i.e. renault trafic sides, or VW transporter sides as I have one of each to do in the next couple of weeks and it would make the job a lot easier as it is to be fitted at customers place 2 hours away! I normally use standard 3951 or ij380 for deeper recesses.

thanks

stuart

[Jon Marshall]

quote David McDonald:

No they aren’t really suitable, we experimented with the recesses on a new model Citroen Dispatch, which has similar depth to the recesses as the Trafic you mention. They just won’t stay in unless you heat the vinyl for so long and at such a high temperature it starts to damage the vinyl.

Cheers
Macky

Even the new IJ180 David?

[David McDonald]

Hi Jon

Sorry, only tried the 3951RA, however, will be wrapping a Nemo tomorrow and as a test will try the IJ180 on the recesses on the back doors.

Will post some results

Cheers
Macky

[Chris M Hooper]

I have fitted over 500 van in Ij380 from sprinters to transits and many and never had a problem it is the best by far imo if put in correctly it will stay in pretty much anything

[David McDonald]

Hi Chris

I’m sure that is the case for 380 but its 180 that we are currently testing. Not had the pleasure of using 380 yet but intend to do so soon.

Cheers
Macky

[Stuart Whitehouse]

Thanks for the replies and I thought as much to be honest!

Yes the 380 is brilliant for deep recesses but I was hoping there was an easier option for slightly shallower recesses.

never mind

cheers

stuart

[Stuart Miller]

Anyone used HP air release cast?
Seems to be the one JKN digital print reccomend for a partial wrap print I am having done.

[Rick Ledenican]

quote Carol Davies:

🙁 any feedback on this 3m IJ180CV3 product????

You will flat love the v3. It has just a little more tack than 180-c (initial tack) and contours very well without primer. Also with the v3, you do not see the air release pattern as with the 180-c. We even use it for simple box trucks now because of the labor time. More expensive than oracal but every penny worth the extra cost. We use a lot of oracal still, just not for wraps.