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Die cut stickers, advice needed please?
Hi Everyone, hope youve all had a great christmas.
im just on with a sticker order for a customer of mine, im just interested to know what material you guys use for stickers? do you bother laminating them also? and do you put a cut line for the sticker outline and then have a perf cut even further out?
i mainly do signs and vans so i only keep metamark md5 and mdx digital vinyl instock, but im thinking md5/mdx with matching laminate may be a little over kill for stickers?
i think metamark do a vinyl specifically for stickers?
Thanks in advance Rich
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really depends on what the stickers are used for and if you have/will be charging extra for the laminate, which you should be.
The MD5 is fine for this type of thing.
If you can contour cut them, then i would contour cut.
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MD3, or you’require correct they do an MD-P whigh is 100 micron so thicker than their MD3&5. The MD-P is available with high tack adhesive too.
Just depends on the quantity you’re producing if it’suits worth ordering in a full roll.
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Thanks for the advise guys, just ordered some MDP to make some trial stickers, ill see how they last.
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Hi Guys,
im still having a little trouble with this die cut job, i run a few test cuts before i started the job to sort out cut pressures, i got that sorted.
so i sent the job to the machine to cut, it cute one side really nice but the other side is cut really rough and hasnt cut all the way through, coult this be down to the cut line shape? maybe a bit too complex for the machine to cut all the way through?
Thanks in advance Rich
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Hey rich,
I might not be much use I have only used Versa works for our Roland, am not sure what you are running.
In the cut setting on Vera’s works next to the pressure for the depth there is the distance it would cut (right above) in a oner. Our versaworks came set at 50mm, the engineer instantly advised taking it down to 25. Am pretty sure he said the reason was to produce a cleaner cut
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Hi Rich,
I can’t say I have ever tried to cut all the way down through the backing paper. That’s not to say it can’t be done, but I would have thought it would blunt the blade incredibly fast.
When doing stickers I normally sell them unlaminated by the sheet. If they want them laminated this is extra, if they want them cut out separately this is extra.
Happy new year!
Chris
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Surely that will destroy the cutting strip and blade in seconds cutting right through?
Shouldn’t a digital cutting table or the likes be used for such a job?
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Our graphtec can cut through the backing, using a felt cutting strip. We use blunt blades for it, rather than a sharp one.
Trouble is it isn’t a clean cut, so we cut & weed leaving reg marks, then run through again to perf cut.
A knack in getting it so they remain in the sheet otherwise the pinch rollers will jam where the holesender are.
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Hi rich, I did a few thousand of these last yr, I cut them on my Roland xc540 and my Roland gx500, took a bit of playing about with pressures etc ( I did one at a time with some old vinyl and laminate) to get it right but once I perfected it they cut lovely, I did the die cut through vinyl then had about a 3mm border which then perf cut through backing and they just popped out, giving a 3mm border made it easy for client to peal sticker when applying instead of getting caught on edges, what equipment are u using and software?, hope this helps in some way
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Hi Rich.
What cutter do you have?Today I played with mu Summa flex cut.
In my understanding "flex cut" is only meant to be used to cut simple shapes. Having said that – Shawn results are amazing.
I would personally not torture the cutter and have the ice cream print and cut shape being flex cut / die cut on a rectangle – i.e. client receives the sticker on a rectangle backing. You dont even have to weed as client can discard the non needed vinyl around the ice cream.
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Thanks pane, a lot of time and effort involved in getting it right but once right great results, usually I’d agree I always die cut and leave rectangular shape background but this was a huge manufacturer that gives them to reps and there wholesalers so insisted on perf cut, thanks again for nice words.
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Agreed on a lot of time and effort. My first try in flexi cut was catastrophic, but then after couple of hour play, improved drastically
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That’s spot on mate, looks great end result.
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