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Devil’s Advocate
This will probably be pulled by mods but I think it is fair debate.
I noticed earlier that the link to UKSB on the bottom line where the copyright is is incorrect.
At the same time I noticed Rob has a link to fastsignsltd.com.
As suppliers are not allowed to promote themselves should Fastsigns Scotland be able to?Inbound links from a site with heavy hits like UKSB obviously help with ranking.
I will probably be shot for this but it’s just my view as you can’t have one rule for one and one for another.
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But there are suppliers that are advertising here Tim, graffityp, Roland, Corel to name but a few.
I don’t understand your point 😕
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UKSB is a commercial site and earns Rob an income,
nothing wrong with that, it is a valuable resource, and worth paying for membership, if Rob gets a perk by getting a few hits to rank his site so what,? the link is to a not very good site anyway..Peter
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quote :Inbound links from a site with heavy hits like UKSB obviously help with ranking.100% correct…
The link is there Soley for ranking purposes, nothing more.As has been pointed out, the site is complete knickers, crap even!
Once the "proper site" is complete, (if we ever get round to it) it will take its place and when doing so will already have a very good ranking once launched. even then the link will stay on UKSB….
What i don’t understand is where does it say i am a trade supplier?
I’ll be honest, i have the equipment from wide format cutters, cnc router, flatbed printing, sheet metal guillotine, roll-to-roll printing up to 6ft wide, laminating etc etc etc and the best possible outlet i could wish for to start a trade supply business, i.e. UKSB. But Where on UKSB do you see my adverts, my self promotion etc? nowhere… because there isn’t any!
In the 8 years of running uksignboards.com i bet there is less than half a dozen members i have helped out, even within the UKSG sub-contract forum which i can do. even those i have helped have only been few prints or banners here and there, nothing more.The reality is, I am not interested in supplying the trade… I am far too busy with my own sign work and this website.
Thanks for noticing the copyright date, this tells me my web guys who have been working on my site the past month have over written somthing within the site template reverting to an older date, so i can point this out to them to correct. 😀
Anyway, I am curious to why a single link to a duff site owned by me with virtually no content made you come to the conclusion that i am now a trade supplier which goes against site rules and that a post should now be made to bring this forward for debate?
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Hi Rob
My reference was to the UKSB link not the copyright:
It links to https://www.uksignboards.com/www.uksignboards.comI know your not a trade supplier, that wasn’t actually my point, my point was that members can’t promote themselves so why should you be able to.
I do think as contributing members we should be able to questions things, I realise you work very hard to bring us all this valuable resource.
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I wonder how many extra hits fastsigns has had since yesterday?
Do the links to user websites on individual posts help page ranking or is it completely ignored?
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quote Tim Painter:I know your not a trade supplier, that wasn’t actually my point, my point was that members can’t promote themselves so why should you be able to.Just pause for a moment and think about what a mess that would be…..this site would go down quicker than your one from Eastenders in a lay by. (we never forget Gillian!):D 😀
Members are allowed to link to their websites in the profiles. -
how many people noticed that link before it was pointed out?
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Harry I don’t want to promote a site and I don’t think we should be able to.
Obviously I’m wrong on this occasion, although 250 + views and only some have the b*lls to comment.
I didn’t post this to cause hassle, maybe to promote some debate.
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What is there to debate Tim?
It’s Rob’s site, so surely he’s entitled to put whatever he wants on it?
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Tim I’m not sure how the scales membership go, but certainly UKSG user can provide a link to their website (next to the pm button) Not sure if you are aware of this? Users can promote themselves albeit in maybe a more subtle way and not to every site user.
G
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The Celts are ganging up on you Tim :lol1:
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Tim, by your own admission we have established I am NOT a supplier to our trade.
This being the case, how can a small text link buried at the bottom of a page be classed as an advert when there is nothing contained in it to promote and is owned by a non-trade supplying company?I have already told you of its purpose, SEO. Search Engine Optimization.
quote :250 + views and only some have the b*lls to comment.
I didn’t post this to cause hassle, maybe to promote some debate.I really don’t think, b*lls as you put it, has anything to do with it Tim, I think those 250 views/viewer’s are probably wondering what the point of this "debate" really is about. perhaps i am missing the bigger picture… Please explain?
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Must be my time of the month……. 😕
SEO is promotion though.
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quote Tim Painter:Must be my time of the month……. 😕SEO is promotion though.
Tim what do you mean by having the balls to reply to this topic? There were many replies last night but it started to go off topic a little. Many may feel it’s not worth replying to as I do because you’re starting a pointless debate in my view. Who cares if Robs links at the bottom? I don’t. 😉
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quote Tim Painter:Must be my time of the month……. 😕
Have some chocolate Tim – always works for me! 😉 :lol1:
I don’t see the debate either I’m afraid, as Gavin pointed out we can all have links to our own website here. I do…… see just below 🙂 😉
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Should I eat that before or after the humble pie…… :lol1:
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:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: at the same time! Along with 2 paracetomol!
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Well I read the post last night and didn’t comment because I didn’t see any point. I read just about every post made but don’t comment on them all. I’m certainly not worried about any comeback from Robert though, if I was I would have been banned from the forum within about the first week of joining.
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Tim, if you are half as good making signs as digging holes you will be a wealthy man very soon!
I too looked last night and felt there was nothing to reply to – bear in mind that the average response ie comments to views is around 5% I cant even be bothered checking how many replies this has had but im sure its around that!
It is good that open debate goes on its essential. When I first joined I was slightly wary of this site (I am very cynical by nature) I knew nobody had a a thread deleted which I didn’t know why it had nothing odd in it) a few different reasons.
The bottom line is though this site is a commercial venture. I have never seen it as anything else but that does not stop it being a very very valuable resource and great community which must help so many people.
Rob will benefit from this site in many many many ways – the link being a very minor one (bad site Rob – engarved signs?) but if he didn’t do it who else would? Can a commercial site ever be truly unbiased – probably not. I am very surprised Rob doesn’t promote his business more to be honest probably because doesn’t want to push it and is fair, – maybe because he is well rewarded in other ways – maybe he takes all the membership fees and blows the lot on flumps. I wouldn’t know I haven’t met him.
But if I put in the time he did to this site I know I would want a decent reward for the trouble and it would be more than a wee link to an average site!
But nice one Tim keeps your eyes peeled the next one could be juicy!
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What’s a flump….and can I have one?
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Always nicking the kids flumps.
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I feel I need to post now on this thread just for the Honour of my balls (all 3 of them 😮 )
So……….eh…………not fussed really, but good on you Tim for bringing it to everyone’s attention how poor Rob’s Fast Signs website is 😉
(says the man that doesn’t even have a site :oops:)
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😀 😀
Steve: We call them Flubbers 😀Tim: We call them the Elsmores 😮 😀 😀
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Look on the bright side Tim, you eventually got a debate going, albeit one sided :lol1:
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So who’s gonna ban Rob then???
Show of hands? 😉
I can remember way back when…This site wasn’t a Commercial effort…It was a burden of love. I remember getting replies to my questions from Aus by Rob and it was three o clock in the morning in Scotland where he was staying up late getting something sorted on the site.
If he’s making a squid from it now…Then good on ya Rob 😀
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