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Deep meaningful thoughts……………..
If humans have evolved from apes then what have the apes evolved from? (?) (?)
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Chickens 🙄
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Rap and Hip hop singers (:)
or maybe football supporters 😕
Bikers even 😕
Boy racers 😕
CUSTOMERS 😆 😆
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If this is the case then was it from a chicken or from an egg (?)
Keith
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The apes don’t deserve that Phil 😀 😉
Keith
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Signmakers 😆
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And if we evolved from apes. Why are there still apes about today. :S
Another little point to think about: Humans share 99% of their genetic structure with chimapnzes, but we also share 50% of it with bananas (did i spell bananas right it’s like Steve McManamanamanamanaman I never know when to stop.)
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Aliens…….We are advanced self-repairing, machines that have evolved, and taken over the world,
Our creators were forced to leave in fear of their livesSimon 😉
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I wouldn’t worry too much about our origins, making it through to tomorrow morning is far more important followed by what’s for lunch (?) 😉
Alan
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Couldn’t agree more Alan….
Did you know?
That if you have a roof over your head, a shirt on your back and food on the table that you are better off than 75% of the world’s population!! A sad indictment on ‘modern’ society.
Following this train of thought a Chimpanzee with a decent fur coat, living under some idyllic forested roof canopy eating a banana…..with the added attraction of a bevy of bared bummed beauties to shower attention on is having a bit of a result (:)
To further compound the theory that Chimpanzees are brighter than most…….. I’ve yet to meet one who is a West Ham supporter 😕
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Oh absolutely brilliant Gray!
So who are the experts on this subject?
One would think the evolutionist spending all our money on their researchIn their desire to find evidence of apeman some scientists have been taken in by outright fraud
For example, the Piltdown man in 1912. For about 40 years it was accepted as genuine by most of the evolutionary community. Finally, in 1953 the hoax was uncovered when modern techniques revealed that human and ape bones had been put together and artificially aged.
The point: These are the experts who’s dribble our kids have to listen to at school
And the millions of years of man’s evolution?
What about this from ‘Popular Science’, How Old Is It? by Robert Gannon, Nov 79 page 81‘Man, instead of having walked the Earth for 3.6 million years, may have been around for only a few thousand’
The British Museum contains man’s history from times beginning but yet stretches back no more than 6,000 years!!!
John
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I’m with Alan. What’s for lunch.
John, the point is that the theories being put forward to our children in schools, and also to us on the likes of the Discovery channel, are just that, theories, not fact, and no reputable scientist would attempt to pass them off as such.
They represent a best guess based on the knowledge we have now and surely everyone should expect a theory to be modified, or even changed completely, as new discoveries are made. I don’t find that unreasonable.
To give the Discovery channel its due, they often have programmes with “experts” giving opposing explanations for something or other and I think that’s great as the discussion makes me think about it and allows me to form my own opinion. The stuff published by Graham Hancock is a good example of this in that he has a plausible theory, with some facts to back it up, but is he right? I don’t know and I’m waiting for more hard information before reaching a conclusion, but there is nothing wrong in him putting his thoughts forward to stimulate debate.
And that’s what we should be teaching our children to do, think for themselves.
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Look out interesting debate alert, Gray I envy you your faith
quote :The myth that we came from apes is deeply rooted in our education systembut the idea that an all powerful being created man is a lot more mythical than evolution theory, and the fact that its deep rooted is because evolution is the only plausible theory for us being here and I’m afraid I have to discount Genesis in the same way as the ones about us being put here by aliens 😆
John, I worked at the British Museum for around 6 years and met plenty of people there that don’t seem to have evolved that far 😆 but seriously in that time I saw a lot, read a lot and met a lot of very interesting, if slightly beardy, people that convinced me old Darwin was on the right track, Piltdown man was a very clever hoax but that is only one in many thousands of discoveries and many millions of man hours spent researching, and theorising and digging in the dirt, but like my dad says “son opinions are like a***holes, everyones got one”
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If we look at the theory that evolution is ongoing and mother nature always has something in reserve (just in case!) then perhaps the apes are evolving closer to us in readiness for…………………….. (?) (?)
Keith
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I think evolution is not just a theory but a reality. There is so much evidence to back it up. Fossils are very rare occurences, very few dead animals end up fossilised so it’s no suprise at all that there are gaps in the fossil records. Fossils only tell us a tiny fraction of the variety of species that have existed.
Not only that, but we all evolve during our own lifetimes. None of us are the same people we were 5 years ago. Almost every atom in our bodies wiil have been replaced, and our personalities and appearances now are different from what they were a few years ago. (dig out some old photographs – or read something that you wrote some years ago – you will be suprised at how much you have changed).
The sad thing is nothing stays the same. The “you” that existed 5 or 10 years ago does not exist today. In another 5 years time the “you” that exists now will have also moved on and become something else.
The exceptions to this rule are Joan Collins and Cliff Richard 😀
Sharks have also stayed the same for millions of years, but they have no souls and are merely machines with no conscience.
Dolphins are very intelligent (maybe as intelligent as humans) perhaps they have souls?
Perhaps only creature with souls continue to evolve – eventually to become perfect 😀
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quote johnchilds:The stuff published by Graham Hancock is a good example of this in that he has a plausible theory, with some facts to back it up, but is he right? I don’t know and I’m waiting for more hard information before reaching a conclusion, but there is nothing wrong in him putting his thoughts forward to stimulate debate.
Among other things , Graham Hancock wrote about the Sphinx in Egypt being much older than is currently believed. Evidence suggests that it was weathered by water at the end of the last ice age – which means it is at least 10 thousand years old and not 6 thousand years old as is currently believed.
This implies that civilised man has existed on earth for much longer than is thought.
In actual fact Graham Hancock was talking about the Sphincter not about the Sphinx (a simple spelling mistake). In other words – he was talking out of his *rse 😆 😆
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quote :The sad thing is nothing stays the same. The “you” that existed 5 or 10 years ago does not exist today. In another 5 years time the “you” that exists now will have also moved on and become something else.
The exceptions to this rule are Joan Collins and Cliff Richard
LOL 😀
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Hhmmm here comes the Scotsman to make a fool of himself again…
I believe that aliens found the earth. And used it to drop prisoners of their planet from over spilled prisons. Left to get on with it basically…
Could we have evolved from them?Or…
Like the way earth is going now.. Ozone cracking up etc. left aliens no other choice but to move here from their own “now uninhabitable planet” & seek refuge with limited equipment etc and start again…
Or…
Same as above, but their planet was in collision course from a huge meteor!
They say because of the age of the pyramids they think it was actually aliens that made them and not man as first thought! Take the above scenarios and it may well have been!
Monkeys/apes?
I think it maybe monkeys that evolved from us! Or aliens I should say! Rather than vice versa.
Take a man, leave him in the mountains for many years. He takes on a hairier appearance, Looses clarity in his speech & lives like an animal to survive.
Lets say he mates and they have a child. Lack of education, proper speech they form their own ways of communication.. Almost chimp like?This is my “sort of” beliefs.. 😉 🙄
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Here’s something to think about
The Genesis account of creation i.e. the order in which life appears is in line with the discoveries made by paleontologists and geologists.
1 A beginning
2 a primitive earth in darkness
3 Light
4 an expanse or atmosphere
5 large areas of dry land
6 land plants
7 sun, moon and stars discernable in the expanse, and seasons beginning
8 sea moinsters and flying creatures
9 wild and tame beasts, mammals
10 manScience agrees that these stages occurred in this general order. What are the chances that the writer of Genesis just guessed this order? The same as if you picked at random the numbers 1 -10 from a box and drew them in consectutive order. The chances of doing this on your first try are 1 in 3,628,800!!! (<( (<(
Where did Moses get this information from? Remember he wrote this just some 3,500 years ago.
John
Ps. Who started this string anyway??
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Each to their own beleifs
Mine is simple live a happy life and do what ever it takes to acheive it as long as you dont make anyone else unhappy along the way.And Im positive
A Scientist.
A Religious Person
An Ape
And An AlienWould Agree
Neil…….
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quote keith:then perhaps the apes are evolving closer to us in readiness for…………………….. (?) (?)
Keith
Wait I saw a film about this once about a guy in a space ship that travelled into the future.
“You blew it up damn you”
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Jonalphsign wrote
quote :1 A beginning
2 a primitive earth in darkness
3 Light
4 an expanse or atmosphere
5 large areas of dry land
6 land plants
7 sun, moon and stars discernable in the expanse, and seasons beginning
8 sea moinsters and flying creatures
9 wild and tame beasts, mammals
10 manCouple this with Rob’s theory and it could simply be the chronicles of an alien race who created the earth and how they did it.
Keith
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I guess you’re right Keith
Chronicles from an ‘alien’ race
Alien adj. = belonging to something else
[latin: Alienus-alius, = other]Genesis account written by man, under inspiration by other? (God)
John
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Good point John. However I think in relies upon ones beliefs afterall the pharoahs were deemed to be gods!
Keith
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Yeah but the Pharoahs had their medicine men rub human excrement into any open wounds they had, believing it to have curative powers. Not very bright gods were they?
The Papyrus Ebers, a medical document of the ancient Egyptians, prescribed the use of excrement to treat various conditions. It directed that human excrement mixed with milk be applied as a poultice to lesions that remain after scabs fall off.
Certainly doesn’t give me confidence in crediting them with the knowledge of how we got here!
Interestingly they are credited, by experts, with great wisdom in the field of medicines and poisons!!!
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Crumbs Gray:
Sounds like you’re talking about that biblical passage in Job 26 written 3,500 years ago: “He is stretching out the north over the empty place.
Hanging the Earth upon nothing”or the one in Isaiah 40
“There is one dwelling above the ‘circle’ of the Earth”
The Hebrew word ‘chugh’ can also mean sphereFunny how Christpher Columbus was credited with discovering this thousands of years later isn’t it? 😀
John
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