• could this be done

    Posted by James Martin on September 18, 2008 at 12:32 am

    Hi

    Been asked to quote a van with this graphic.

    Its a gradient and my guess is it would have to be printed onto transparent but my understanding is that is difficult.

    Any suggestions?


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    Terry Bull replied 15 years, 7 months ago 11 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

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    September 18, 2008 at 1:14 am

    not a difficult print for anyone with a printer james. if multiples of the same image it would be better with a print and cut machine like a versacamm or gerber edge depending on the size of it. also stipulate that on a vehicle it should be laminated, but give price for it laminated and not.

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    September 18, 2008 at 1:20 am

    Print on clear and laminate it. You will kind of get an impression where it isn’t printed. Also the vehicles must be white for this to work.

  • James Martin

    Member
    September 18, 2008 at 1:34 am

    This van is silver Jason, the ink needs the white behind it I guess?

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    September 18, 2008 at 1:51 am

    ahhh, in that case your stuffed mate. 😕 :lol1:
    only way i see around this is to print it onto white and laminate.
    but leave a small halo of white all around each line to make it appear meant as oppossed to the section at the end where the blend is to blend from colour to white. if that makes sense?

    or, if the logo is next to company name. you could apply a white panel on the van with the text and logo ontop, if it MUST be on a white background…

    at the end of the day, present the customer with the only solutions to this problem. let him decide… he either goes for the white vinyl panel and graphics on top or he goes for the white halo on logo only option, or even changes the colour of his van… :lol1: then again, he may go for the logo blending out printed onto the clear but showing the silver at the end of the blend… anyway, as i said, let him decide.

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    September 18, 2008 at 3:38 am

    Rob if he played around with his colours couldn’t he compensate in the red portions to make it look half decent on clear?

    The black I don’t see as a major problem with a silver van its just the red. You would loose a bit of vibrancy.

    Under laying it in white isn’t really going to work I don’t think because its a fine gradient.

  • Phill Fenton

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    September 18, 2008 at 6:55 am

    I’ve tried something similar on my own van (which is white) – I wanted a soft shadow around the lettering (shadow fades into white) and achieved this by printing on clear then contour cutting. Problem is there is no defined edge to the fade so you need to create an aritficial clear edge. This does work when the graphic is first applied (though if you look closely you can see the edge). The problem is once the vinyl has been on the vehicle for any time you will end up with a black outline around the graphic (due to a build up of dirt) which completely ruins the illusion.

    This example is a case for a wrapping solution I think.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    September 18, 2008 at 7:48 am

    It could be done on a gerber, and contour cut on clear although the fade will not be as smooth as an inkjet, and a fine halftone with two passes of red and black should block out the silver, An edge will stil be visible though were the fade ends.

    The other way that may work is to use the gerber and print onto a near match of metalic silver vinyl?

    Peter

  • Mark Nihotte

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    September 18, 2008 at 10:44 am

    We have done a few like this and printed onto clear – yep the red does need to be cranked up and does loose a bit of depth…but it gains a metallic look to it, which in our job sold it to the customer (he had to see it first to be convinced)

  • David-Foster-

    Member
    September 18, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    What about masking it up and spraying it? 😀

  • James Martin

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    September 18, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    I would love to try a bit of spray, but say you make an ar*e of it; can you clean it off and have another go.

  • David-Foster-

    Member
    September 20, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    Well the design seems simple enough to mask out. You could just get a couple of Car Paint aerosols from Halfords and try it on an old panel. You could wipe of with white spirit if you make a mess.

  • James Martin

    Member
    September 21, 2008 at 12:07 am

    Would you try it David?

    Would you just use regular auto spray and no treatment on top or underneath?

    There must be a few sprayers on this site lol.

  • OwenTaylor

    Member
    October 5, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    what about airbrushing onto transparent vinyl? That will end up more opaque than ink.

    Or how about redoing the fade into small circles so you can vinyl cut it. Perhaps this tutorial may help

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17625

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    October 5, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    I’d go with Peter on this one, completed a few similar jobs using the Edge, a couple of passes and it works a treat.

    Regards

    Jason

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    October 6, 2008 at 12:11 am
    quote Mark Nihotte:

    We have done a few like this and printed onto clear – yep the red does need to be cranked up and does loose a bit of depth…but it gains a metallic look to it, which in our job sold it to the customer (he had to see it first to be convinced)

    I’m with Mark on this. I’ve done this before myself, and it can look quite unique if you get the colours right.

    I’d double print though, to have any chance of having a strong colour over the silve, and laminate it of course, then die cut.

  • Terry Bull

    Member
    October 6, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Cut the design in white and spray with ink weed tape and apply

    Terry

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