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Corel – This maybe of interest
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/ … bview=tab0
Alan D -
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I have not got x4 yet 😮
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quote George Elsmore:I have not got x4 yet 😮Me neither! 😮 Only seems like a wet week since X4 was released!
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X4 has been out about 2 years.
Alan D -
finally !!!!
Multi-core support!!! now got to test it to see how far that goes
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quote Alan Drury:X4 has been out about 2 years.Wow, time flies.
See they haven’t gone back to Mac. I might just wait for service pack 1 😀
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no mac, sadly.. that be a bit of a blow to them this time round as mac is starting to be more of the platform to be on
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No MAC version and unlikely I would say but runs fine apparently using Bootcamp or similar. I’m using it on W7 – 32 bit and its quick.
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Going to try it later. Checking on Amazon, X4 Anniversary with tablet for £99, bargain!
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Well I have installed the Trial on my spare Duo Core Laptop to give it a run…. I have to say it’s winning me over since X3.
1: Multi-core support, this is massive in terms of computer upgrading as finally it can gain speed by using all the cores together and it does it very well. Its shockingly fast!
2: Colour profile support and the way Corel handles colours. They have soft-proofing and to be able to match it up to different ICC so you can see the results, this means that the stigma towards Corel finally ends here, it can be classed as a world class professional drawing program that can compete with Illustrator for professional output.
3: Pixels and Hex colours for web design, much needed was this!
4: RGB or CMYK on New page setup ( like in Illustrator ), it’s finally there.
5: Document Palette, remembers the last set of colours that you used, great for working with colour.Some of above maybe Corel X4, but I only breifly tested X4 and I thought it wasn’t worth the jump, but this is one is.
Now I got to review licensing, X4 has a small business pack (3 licenses) but not seen it yet for X5.
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I have it running on Windows 7 on a Core i5 750 and it is flying.
I read on a forum somewhere it has some extras for Signmakers, it includes PhotoZoom Pro 2 to enlarge bitmaps to banner size and something about working better at full scale with vehicle templates. Unfortunately SignTools 3 doesn’t work in Windows 7, I will have to upgrade to SignTools 4.
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noted David… im going to be testing the Corel out for performance, now I know its Multicore that opens up a load of newer processors like the i5 😀
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Photozoom is a plugin for Photopaint and is included the other stuff – (Swish etc) will be in the box set.
The colour manager as Dave says had major work but alot of behind the scenes work went on to set it up for the future. I have it on a i5 – W7 machine and it is quick.
Alan D -
Just doing some costings….
Insight
X4 Complete Edition £266.99 +vat
X4 Upgrade £141.99 +vat
X4 Small Business Edition (released last year) is £360.99, making the license value of £120.33 per head.X5 Box or Download from corel.com is £399 +vat
X5 Upgrade Box or Download from corel.com is £179 +vat
X5 from Greymatter.com is £357.60+vat
X5 upgrade from Greymatter.com is £166.14+vatI don’t see any press releases concerning a X5 Small Business Edition, so this makes it expensive route to get us going. The Small Business Edition should have a upgrade route, so an X4 SBE should have a method of it being upgraded with a X5 SBE ! Have all the press-releases come out?
p.s. The £90 cash back deal on this site has now closed.
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More (better) prices:
Amazon.co.uk
X5 full version £332.99 INC vat
X5 upgrade £158.99 INC vatFrom what I can see they are both sold from amazon directly and not one of their associates.
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i saw those prices, but what I tried to see if Amazon would give me a VAT receipt… in the shopping cart it was just inc vat.
I understand the Small Business Edition is not dropped, so I am keen to learn more about that.
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quote Dave Rowland:i saw those prices, but what I tried to see if Amazon would give me a VAT receipt… in the shopping cart it was just inc vat.I understand the Small Business Edition is not dropped, so I am keen to learn more about that.
But your invoice by law must be a vat invoice, if there is a vat element.
so what is the problem? You would get a full vat invoice if you bought the product,Peter
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exactly my problem…. peter
Amazon website is broke! it’s only showing Inc vat figures, but if I look at past invoices I see VAT, but this time… no… cant take the risk
I started seeing invoices like this with Ebuyer, if you are not signed in (and setup as a business) then your invoices (or receipts) will be displayed without final values (inc vat)
Who said the user Corel is actually Corel?
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Risk?
what risk?
if the invoice includes vat, all you need is the suppliers vat number on the invoice, again a legal requirement, sorry mate I dont see what you are getting at, if you buy a product for your company, and are penny pinching for a few quid, the vat element is the least of your problems as it should not come into the equation
and even if it does, the inc vat prices are cheaper than the +vat ones?Peter
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yes i could put it through, but i rather not buy it… its unprofessional to sell it this way and why are Corel listing the item in the first place like this? so i dont think it is corel listing on amazon, would have thought they set the listing up correctly and matched the monies.
And yes I reviewing the licensing that we need as a company at the moment, getting clarification on the small print and the old small business edition that ‘did’ offer you 3 licenses for £130ish each, which is a much better deal!
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Don’t worry Dave, Amazon’s price has just gone up!
Please note that the price of CorelDRAW X5, Upgrade Edition (PC) has increased from £158.99 to £179.99. I presume that is inclusive 😀
I find that a lot. If you place something in your basket and save it for later, when you go back a few days later the price seems to have gone up! (:)
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Good job I ordered it last week then…
I’ve just checked my order and on the receipt it shows:
Items: £135.31
P&P: £5.96
Total before vat: £141.27
VAT: £24.72
Grand total: £165.99So the vat is indeed shown separately.
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So it sounds like this is worth upgrading from X3 then.
I like the sound of locking toolbars, my wife is for ever moving them by accident.
Has there been any major improvements in the normal everyday working tools?Steve
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yep… and don’t forget those of us who might be students and only using the program for education purposes, you cannot use the upgrade version to upgrade from an academic version.
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Stephen, probably most significant improvement is colour management, but loads of things that just make it better from multi core support to import filters to little things like rounded corners on rectangles remaining rounded when the rectangle is stretched.
If you are using Vista or W7 open and save dialogue boxes are linked to the OS so you can use search. (came in with X4) The additions like Swish and Photozoom V2 – more vehicle outlines and fonts just add value.
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Thanks Alan
The corners staying round is a big plus, it irritates me having to fillet the corners after you’ve got the box to the right size.No problem for me Dave, mines the full copy, I got the £90 back offer as well shortly after buying it so it turned out to be very good value.
Didn’t bother with X4 as most people said that it wasn’t a big change from X3.Steve
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Just a heads up about the cost. I have just ordered the upgrade and went through Quidco. Corel do 20% discount going through them. (waiting for it to show up on statement yet though)
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Graphtec’s Cutting Master 2 isn’t compatible with Coreldraw X5
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quote John Cooper:Graphtec’s Cutting Master 2 isn’t compatible with Coreldraw X5
and screws up in Corel X3!
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quote Dave Rowland:quote John Cooper:Graphtec’s Cutting Master 2 isn’t compatible with Coreldraw X5and screws up in Corel X3!
Not on our system. How so dave?
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Works fine in my x3 too.
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if cutting master 2 has an issue with some grouping or aspect of a drawing, it sometimes has a VBA error, what they haven’t handled is how to catch errors correctly, so when you try and use Corel again you might find some strange behavour like trying to select an item. The CM2 itself isn’t bad but the Corel script to check your drawing is well, unfinished!
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I’ve run CM2 on X3 and X4 and I found it to be slow and clunky with group issues as Dave describes. Apparently it tries to read every object in the drawing so large jobs take forever to load and process. I only way I could get it to run at the speed I would find acceptable is to use layers in Draw and drag the object to be cut into a new layer, I then made the orginal layer non printable. Sped things up a bit but too much faffin about for real work.
For summa users the Summa Winplot/cut is head and shoulders faster albeit basic in comparison and can be made to run in X5 with a very minor tweak.
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Anyone got their box set yet?
I ordered from Greymatter and I’ve now been told it’ll be the 24 March before they ship it.
I’m using the demo version at the moment so no great problem until the 30 days runs out, just have to make sure I save everything as X3 before it does.Steve
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If you purchased the box set, you should have a serial number which you can type in to your demo & it will be fully legit.
john
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quote John Hughes:If you purchased the box set, you should have a serial number which you can type in to your demo & it will be fully legit.
I think that is only for orders direct from Corel. I see that the Amazon price is down again.
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sos didn’t think of that – we ordered ours from Corel
john
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How are you guys getting on with X5?
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the demo is an improvement, also see a better integration with newer developer tools.
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Getting on fine with it Alan, waiting for the box with all the other bits. Had my doubts about upgrading to Windows 7 but I am getting the best out of my hardware now.
Only problem I had was that SignTools 3 isn’t compatible with Windows 7. I had to upgrade to the new SignTools 4. Had some problems at first but Andrew from A Signs in Australia was excellent, I had to do a fresh install of Corel X4 and X5 and it works great now.
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one question i have… as im still on x3
Will X4 read an X5 file? i know they changed the structure of the file format in X4 so interested to know.
I know X5 will read X4/X3 ok.
In illustrator it will read newer files, although may warn you about loss of data.
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I can confirm the amazon order is £134.44 +vat and its showing up in shopping cart for the upgrade box version.
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quote Dave Rowland:Will X4 read an X5 file?
No.
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thanks for the info
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quote Dave Rowland:I can confirm the amazon order is £134.44 +vat and its showing up in shopping cart for the upgrade box version.
What! :banghead:
Bugger!, mine was £166 + Vat.
Oh well, you win some, you lose some.
Steve
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To confirm X4 will not read X5 files but CMX should be ok although not information is retained.
A little info about X4 and X5 files, change the file extension to ZIP – open the file in Winzip or similar and you will see the components of the file, one is called rif data.cdr . although you can only open it in the relevant version sometimes you can salvage info from otherwise corrupted files.
I reckon to get the very best out of X5 W7 is the way to go.
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Is anybody successfully running rasterlink/finecut (4 or 5) for Mimaki CJV30 or cutting master 2 for Graphtec with X5?
Colin
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Looks pretty sleek doesn’t it. The help files are pretty good too and users would be advised to read the colour management section as this has been changed significantly over previous versions.
Alan d -
One thing I did do was open an X3 file onto the X5 on my laptop, X5 certainly displays it differently and more precise, however I open it back on X3 on my main PC and it looks flat as Corel has been over the years.
Will be nice to have colour correct screens for a change.
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X5 is now using the OS profile for the monitor so important that that is set correctly. Previous versions used monitor profile as set within Draw. The issue of CM and the way X5 does it compared to previous versions is complex and a little beyond my expertise but if enough people get problems with it that can’t be sorted with the help files and tutorials I’ll get more information and get someone to visit here and explain.
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Well my boxed version from Corel is on its way. It is being delivered today 😀
Just noticed Amazon’s shipping date has been put back to 31st May! :lol1:
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Boxed version arrived today – well a book & CD in a cardboard box.
Just finished installing.
john
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yep… shipping put back indeed
mines june time!
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Mmmm, well I’ve not received mine yet, was supposed to have it Wednesday.
And because I didn’t buy it direct I’ve not got a serial number, unless my X3 one will work, but I bet it’s not that simple.
Steve
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Have just ordered from amazon and delivery is estimated April 1 😀
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Got mine yesterday (Monday).
You can’t just enter the serial number in the evaluation version either, it’s a complete uninstall and reinstall the box version, I know cos is didn’t work, telephoned support and they said the box version is different from the download version.
It’s taken up far more hard drive space I know that :lol1:Steve
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Just had email
Your Amazon.co.uk order has dispatched
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Just arrived, nice package 😀
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Corel X5 boxes have arrived, really pleased so far
One thing you must not skip, watch the videos that come with it, simply stunning tutorials for whatever level of Corel experience you have.
I think they are online too
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Does any body have raster link rip for mimaki cjv30 or cut master for graphtec cutters working with x5 yet?
Not much point upgrading for me unless these plug-ins are available.
Colin
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see this post
https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=46854i have to say that CM2 is problematic for us, many silly things but here is something that happens a lot with us.
if cross-cut is off, it will cross-cut at the origin point at the start of a job, it slices off an inch of waste
Edit: my link wasn’t here
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I thought I had heard that CM had been upgraded to work with x5 but would like to know if anyone had tried this yet? Don’t have the problem you mention with our x4 +cm2 installation, just the usual grouped items issues and the speed(or lack of it)
Incidentally, the quickest fix I found for large files where only a small section is to be cut is to just copy and paste the section into a new blank file and plot this. Page size makes no difference as cm2 always plots the whole area.
Also would like to hear from anyone using mimaki rasterlink with x5
Colin
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I have cutting master working with X5. Not done major work with it but is ok with basic stuff. Groups are still a problem so make sure stuff is ungrouped in Draw. I think it is a CM issue as everything is fine with Summa’s Winplot although it is much less feature rich compared with CM.
Alan D -
Thanks Alan, I still cant find anyone that has tried the rasterlink plug-in so I may contact Hybrid and see if they have idea?
Colin
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