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  • Corel Drax X5 feed back from any one who is useing it

    Posted by Ian Pople on June 18, 2010 at 10:34 am

    Corel Drax X5 feed back from any one who is useing it.

    Hi,

    Whos useing it and comments if its worth upgrading from X4.

    Thanks

    Ian

    Tony Severenuk replied 13 years, 10 months ago 9 Members · 24 Replies
  • 24 Replies
  • David Rowland

    Member
    June 18, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    not until they fix the bugs… SP1 is very soon and I have been following the corel forums with the problems…

    but i got an issue as i got a new person starting, but all windows machines are now win7, so i prefer to buy that but our last version in corel x3 which as i understand is not win7 compatible.

    We have gone back to corel x3 due to the bugs and the slowness of the program until they are addressed, it is not an ideal plan.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    June 18, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    X5 is not without its issues and as Dave has said a SP will sort most of those. That said I use X5 daily for real work on an i5 – W7 32bit machine which also has X4 on it so I can go from one to another if I wanted to – but I’ve never needed to. I haven’t noticed any speed issues that affect my work but I am not using huge files. X5 does have improved import filters and with Ghostscript will now import level 3 postscript files. Connect is a new addition and some will like that. Colour management has had an overhaul and is an improvement on the old method but may need some getting used to before you see the benefits.
    I did the testing on a old XP machine and it was good, on a modern W7 machine it’s quick.
    Is it worth the upgrade? for the price it must be, apart from the updated programme you get extra fonts, a version of Swish and Photozoom as a plugin for PhotPaint.
    Alan D

  • Ian Pople

    Member
    June 19, 2010 at 10:04 am

    so another case of us end users beta testing for them then.

    Ian

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    June 19, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    I have both X3 and X5 and I’ve started to use X3 again because of little problems, sometimes it takes ages to start as well.

    I’ve never lost any work because of any problems though and some of the features like welding tend to be faster than X3 but on the whole I find X3 faster to work with at the moment.

    Steve

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    June 20, 2010 at 9:09 am

    I have x3 and x5.

    I prefer designing on x5, as it imports PS files really well, but I still use x3 as my work horse as I’ve had some problems when exporting x5 files to the RIP.

    I just don’t have time to play with x5 at the moment, so I’m comfortable with x3 until I can get my head around the few nuances of x5.

    I don’t regret upgrading it for a minute though.

  • George Zerbino

    Member
    June 20, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Same here, have both X3 and X5. I try to use X5 for everything, but the new colour management is causing me problems, especially with pantone colours.
    It also hangs quite often, looking forward to sp1 hoping that it addresses the problems.
    Bit of a shame, as I’ve always sung Corel’s praises ever since version 3.

  • Ian Pople

    Member
    June 20, 2010 at 11:32 am

    I with stick with X4. Just downloading the trial for X5 lets see how bad it it lol. Installing it on a vista 64 bit pc quad core will update later.

    Still think v8 was the best

    Ian

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    June 20, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    quote Ian Pople:

    I Installing it on a vista 64 bit pc quad core will update later.

    Ian

    That’s what mine is running on too

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    June 20, 2010 at 12:07 pm
    quote George Zerbino:

    but the new colour management is causing me problems, especially with pantone colours.
    .

    Thats the issue I have too George. I’m assuming it is something I’m doing wrong to be honest. But now you have said that I’m not so sure.

    Never hangs, does take some time to load though. Only thing I have found is that any file that x3 will not load, x5 will load easily.

    I’ve been using Corel since way back too. Always user friendly compared to PS, and I think X5 is the closest they have come to PS design production too.

  • George Zerbino

    Member
    June 20, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    Shane, the problem I have is that if I have a pantone colour in a job and export as an eps to then rip with wasatch, the colour will print differently to X3. It’s driving me up the wall!

    What this means is that I cannot use X5 to export any of my older files, as the colour will not match the previous (found out the hard way when doing repair work to some Porsche race cars that I printed on wrap vinyl)

    I cannot understand why Corel didn’t do an option to keep existing colour management settings, maybe it will appear in a service pack.

    Cheers,
    George

  • David Rowland

    Member
    June 20, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    i always found corel pdf to be better at transferring to RIPS.

    having tested Wasatch over the last week, still confused with pantone libraries, do they have to be setup on the RIP in a special way?

  • John Hughes

    Member
    June 20, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Totally agree with you George – right pain.

    Dave, do you get ‘Root error’ (what ever that means) when saving as PDF

    John

  • Tony Severenuk

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    quote George Zerbino:

    I cannot understand why Corel didn’t do an option to keep existing colour management settings, maybe it will appear in a service pack.

    Cheers,
    George

    There is an easy way to do this in the original release. Some background…

    Previous versions of CorelDRAW defaulted to CMYK for the PANTONE equivilent numbers. For a number of years PANTONE has been asking Corel to switch from using CMYK to Lab numbers…Lab colors are the closest match to the original PANTONE inks….when Lab numbers are used in conjunction with the color profiles embedded in the .CDR files, the most visually accurate conversion takes place. CMYK is the most narrow color gamut and the CMYK numbers only work match one ink set (US SWOP inks).

    There are workflows where matching the original PMS color is not as important as matching the existing colors in a design. If this is the case then select Tools>Color Management> Default settings. In this dialog there is a setting called Spot color Definition: and it defaults to Lab values…switching this to CMYK will make it work like previous versions.

    !!!AN ADDITIONAL NOTE!!!
    Every version PANTONE gives us updated color palettes. At times, some inks will have their CMYK values changed slightly as PANTONE has found that the CMYK equivalents will be more accurate with different numbers.

    HTH,
    T.

  • John Hughes

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 7:21 pm

    Hi Tonys – just to clarify your points

    If we want to print repeat jobs and hence match the colour(s) we should
    change the Spot color Definition to CMYK from Lab values….

    But.. is it best to change back to Lab values when designing / printing new jobs or when a customer sends a file for printing.

    thanks
    John

  • Tony Severenuk

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 7:32 pm
    quote John Hughes:

    But.. is it best to change back to Lab values when designing / printing new jobs or when a customer sends a file for printing.

    thanks
    John

    That depends…

    If you want the printout/web banner to look as close to the spot ink, then yes you should use Lab.

    If someone knows what they want the CMYK values to be, then leave it on CMYK.

    It’s a tough place to be, I know. PANTONE doesn’t like giving out the CMYK colors because people tend to get attached to the CMYK numbers rather the the visual integrity of the inks…..and really, PANTONE’s business is all about people using their ink.

    HTH,
    T.

  • John Hughes

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Ok thanks.
    Got a new printer & RIP being installed next week so a good time to start afresh ……… maybe !!

    While you’re on – do you you know what causes the ‘root error’ when saving files as a PDF ?
    ie Save file – just A4 page – open PDF and that error message comes up –
    but not every time.

    cheers
    john

  • Tony Severenuk

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 8:02 pm
    quote John Hughes:

    While you’re on – do you you know what causes the ‘root error’ when saving files as a PDF ? ie Save file – just A4 page – open PDF and that error message comes up – but not every time.

    cheers
    john

    It’s not ringing a bell, sorry.

    T.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 9:05 pm

    Very interesting Tony

    With regard Root error, never had it.

  • George Zerbino

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Thanks for the info Tony.

    I had tried that route before, and although there was a difference, it still didn’t match what was previously printed. I will give it a thorough bash in the next couple of days to see if I can sort it out.

    Cheers,
    George Z

  • Matt Boyd

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    hey george, this may sound like a real obvious answer so please forgive me! i would phone up corel support, they have a great team their who should be able to sort out the issue for you.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Just so you know Matt, Tony who’s posting is Corel

  • Matt Boyd

    Member
    June 21, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    oh well, their you go then….didn’t realize he was a corel guy…handy to know.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    June 22, 2010 at 7:16 am

    Matt, Tony is not only a Corel guy but one of top Corel guys when it comes to Draw.
    Alan D

  • Tony Severenuk

    Member
    June 22, 2010 at 6:28 pm
    quote Dave Rowland:

    Just so you know Matt, Tony who’s posting is Corel

    Yeah..I had that in my name at one point, but they’ve reset my name so it’s just first and last…dunno why.
    T.

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