• Colour Matching

    Posted by Fred McLean on February 5, 2007 at 10:17 am

    Is there an easy way to colour match a sample???
    Have a dreaded caravan stripe to match and it’s
    turning into a nightmare (hot)

    The colour is TAUPE(printed) over metallic red and there is no
    pantone remotely like it.I think the red base material is coming through to
    that is why a pantone is miles out.

    Have tried adjusting on screen but doesn’t print anything like what i’m seeing,which i understand with calibration of monitors etc.etc.

    So is there an easy way or is it just trial and more error!!!!

    On the same kind of subject a customer who’s into
    photography suggested a product called a SPYDER, it clamps
    over your monitor and calibrates it or something!! They do a couple of other things as well like a colourmeter thing!!Anybody got one or know or heard of them???

    F

    Fred McLean replied 17 years, 3 months ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
  • 10 Replies
  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 11:38 am

    Fred, this isn’t the same dreaded caravan is it? If I were you I would sell up move somewhere else and start up with a sign on the door saying NO CARAVANS.

    Seriously though I am no expert when it comes to colour matching but do know that to do it properly you need to match your scanner, monitor and printer so basically what you have to reproduce is copied accurately right the way through. I have heard people speak of different ways of colour matching and a search on the boards might throw something up.

    Don’t forget the other problem you may have as well as the red showing through is fading due to exposure to ultra violet light.

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    Hi Fred

    I’m from a printing background and there are tools that can be used to measure the colour. It will give you the closest pantone match but will also break it down into different colour spectrums and give you the mixture of either CMYK or RGB or even one of the more complex colour scales if it needs to be very accurate.

    Unfortunately I don’t know where to get them or buy them but if you have any large printing firms near you you might be able to call them and ask for a favour. It’s only a small hand held machine and takes 5 seconds to do.

    Good luck

    Warren

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 2:08 pm

    Thanks for the replies guys
    Actually looking at buying one of those "colour spectrometers"
    if that’s what they’re called!
    looks like trial and errror for the time being!!

  • John Childs

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 2:21 pm
    quote martin:

    If I were you I would sell up move somewhere else and start up with a sign on the door saying NO CARAVANS.

    Fred, this is the best advice you are going to get.

    The time you can waste on this sort of thing really isn’t worth the bother. And if you do one, he’ll tell all his mates, and they’ll all come and haunt you as well.

    The only way I will do anything like that is to start from scratch in a standard vinyl colour.

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 2:36 pm

    Yep can’t fail everyone on their advice,but John the guy’s an old school chum who owns a caravan business and it’s an insurance repair job.
    I’m willing to put up with the hassle now to get a better grasp of the
    wide format aspect of the business and use it as a learning curve for
    later on.we’ve done stuff for him before and he knows for what he
    is getting will be silly money 😀

  • John Childs

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 2:45 pm
    quote Fred Mc:

    the guy’s an old school chum who owns a caravan business

    See!!! Told you. There will be more along to follow. 😀

    The reason for my cynicism is that these things are usually brought in by the proud owners, or body repair workshops, who think a fair price for a bit of stripe is about a fiver and begrudge paying any more. To look at their faces when I tell them what the price will be you would think I had just shot Bambi’s mum.

    Seriously, if you know the guy, can have a sensible conversation with him regarding pricing and can get an appropriate reward for the time you spend, then that’s fine.

  • Cheryl Smith

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 2:57 pm

    pantone do these things that go on your comp, dont have one myself, just a pantone formula guide flip chart. If it were me, id say you cant get the colour anymore and will need to change the whole stripe, dont mess about, your time is precious and costly.

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    Hi
    my thoughts would be get as close as you can then create graphics for both sides slightly higher cost in materials but a lot less wasted time. If i’m asked to do something like this i normally explain this may have to be the case & most people go along with it, especially if the graphics are no longer available.

    Kev

  • Rod Young

    Member
    February 5, 2007 at 6:49 pm
    quote Fred Mc:

    Is there an easy way to colour match a sample???
    Have a dreaded caravan stripe to match and it’s turning into a nightmare

    If you do keyword search for "chart," then you will find various previous forum comments about colour matching. Perhaps a quick solution to this fix is to print a chart of swatches that you can compare to the customer’s sample. Some software allows you to generate standard and custom charts, or there are premade charts that are available. Here’s a recent forum posting that may be of assistance.

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … ight=chart

    Cheers,

    Rod

  • Fred McLean

    Member
    February 6, 2007 at 8:43 am

    Thanks for that Rod will have a look
    when i get a minute or 300!!!

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