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    Posted by Peter Normington on November 22, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    This job was a pain in the r’s
    but thanks to the help of uksb members it finally got done,
    Long story, but to cut it short, thanks for the help guys, (no names or pack drill)
    3m ij180 control tac and air release. All printed
    I am not keen on the design as it was supplied by the client, but
    if nothing else I learnt a few lessons….

    Peter


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    Martin Cole replied 13 years, 5 months ago 10 Members · 24 Replies
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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 10:27 pm

    Did you use the air release vinyl in the deep contours Peter?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Yes.
    I know its not recommended for deep recesses, but they ain’t really any deep ones just a lot of ’em, and also not warranted for use on stainless steel, which the body is made of, but it has been on for 10 days, and no signs of popping out,
    To be honest, I tried it to see if it was quicker to apply than say, grafiwrap, but I dont think it was,

    (hope the joins dont shrink)
    😀

    Peter

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    How long did it take and did you make a good profit from it?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Phill
    It took 2 men, 2 days. to fit, + an extra day for me finishing detail, 6 hours computer time, 3 hours in discussion with the client, and about 12 hours to print (maybe a bit more) and I didn’t make much , if any profit, because things went wrong from the start, but having taking on the job, I had to complete it to the clients satisfaction.
    I had a problem with the print, and waisted 25m of material, so go on, off the top of your head what would you have charged?

    Peter

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    I’d have walked away the moment I saw it 😕

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    wish I had!
    but if they do another 100 then maybe not..
    Peter

  • Matty Goodwin

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    Like it Peter.

    😀

  • Daniel Evans

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 11:29 pm

    I think i’ve heard about this, any chance it has a cock-a-doodle-doo horn?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 11:30 pm
    quote Daniel Evans:

    I think i’ve heard about this, any chance it has a (oh i swore !)-a-doodle-doo horn?

    Yes,
    thats the one…..

  • Daniel Evans

    Member
    November 22, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Great stuff

    and how is that swearing, it’s a old nursery rhyme?

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 1:47 am

    Well done mate. After all the hassle you had It turned out well in the end. 😉

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 2:09 am

    It’s because the censor is very prudish.

    Peter, I like it.
    I know this has been a real PITA but you followed through valiantly.
    I bet that grille area on the purple side part was a real bugger.
    (funny I could say that)
    I even changed my shirt to match your van.
    Love…..Jill

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 8:12 am

    Looks good, if you don’t mind can you run through any areas where you had significant problems if you feel it will stop anyone having similar issues or help look out for potential hazards?

    I’ve always been scared to tackle a vent like that, was that one of the problem area?

    Cheers,

    G

  • Neil Davey

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 8:14 am

    Looks excellent Peter, pity you had all the problems but well done you for carrying it through.
    I think most of us have been there to some extent and it’s just a relief to get jobs like
    this finished.
    Here’s to the next 99 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 8:44 am
    quote Gavin MacMillan:

    Looks good, if you don’t mind can you run through any areas where you had significant problems if you feel it will stop anyone having similar issues or help look out for potential hazards?

    I’ve always been scared to tackle a vent like that, was that one of the problem area?

    Cheers,

    G

    Thanks all for the comments
    The actual wrapping was not a problem, the vents are very easy to do, as long as they are perfectly clean, just a matter off overlaying the vinyl, slitting along the raised edge of the slats and folding in the excess.

    The problems were colour and print related, and having a deadline to meet.
    I dont want to go into details just now, but both i and the client will be approaching this type of wrap in a different way for future models.

    Thanks for practical support Jill 😀

    Peter 😀

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 8:51 am

    Thanks for that, interesting to know that it was the printing side rather than application that caused issues. I’d have been so focused on the wrapping part I would have barely thought about printing!

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Nice job Peter, ……..

    ….. what’s a Ckicken 🙄 :lol1:

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    its like a KFC but spelled different

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    :lol1:

    still a good looking job though and well done on the contract.

    Good luck

    Warren

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 9:49 pm
    quote Warren Beard:

    still a good looking job though and well done on the contract.

    I’ll keep my fingers crossed you don’t end up having to re-do 100 trucks if the air release vinyl fails in the recesses 😕

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    Phill
    what experience do you have that makes you think the air release system will fail?
    as I have already explained I will be looking at alternatives for future models,
    To clarify, I do not have a contract for further applications, this was a prototype for the client and myself, Yes there is a possibility that more will follow, but if I had walked away as you would have done, then I would never have known.
    I tried, did my best with all the info available, and client understood all the pitfalls for doing it the way we did from the start, so nothing ventured nothing gained

    Peter

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 10:09 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    Phill
    what experience do you have that makes you think the air release system will fail?

    I don’t know that it will fail. But neither would I be confident that it was up to the job of handling the recesses.

    I would happily try it as a "one off" but wouldn’t trust it to do 100 vehicles without first proving it was ok.

    I’m pleased to hear you haven’t already committed to doing a whole lot of vehicles this way. I think you would be making a mistake if you did without proving the material could handle the recesses first.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 23, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Phil
    I understand your concern and agree entirely,
    3m don’t recommend it on stainless steel or deep recesses, as I said earlier,
    but still told me it "should" be ok, on the other hand grafywrap will warrant their material for this use. before committing to large quantities, I would get the suppliers to back their claims in writing and follow their instructions for applying, I have looked into the theory of the latest air release products, and cannot see why it should be a problem, 3m I am lead to believe, will soon be using air release on ij380,
    which is one of the best products on the market for deep recess.

    Peter

  • Martin Cole

    Member
    November 24, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    Looks good to me Peter, well done

    and well done for persevering as I know it caused you some grief…

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