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    Posted by Chris Wool on August 13, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    this morning the clutch return spring retainer bust, on my vivaro. so as its sold as 3 different makes

    vauxhall no stock will get for monday £1.45, they sent me a fax drawing to confirm part, before ordering.
    renault £45.60 have to buy 2 clips and a spring no stock till tomorrow.
    nissan £22.80 no stock at all.

    thinking we were talking about different parts ask them all to confirm.

    so when i want other bits it may pay to check other dealers as the pricing may be the other way round.

    should i go for the renault one as it might be better quality 😉

    George Zerbino replied 14 years, 8 months ago 13 Members · 18 Replies
  • 18 Replies
  • Martin Oxenham

    Member
    August 13, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    Why would Renault be better quality than Vauxhall ?. Its all the same van !
    I Expect the Renault ones are imported and the Vauxhall ones are local.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    August 13, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    quote Martin Oxenham:

    Why would Renault be better quality than Vauxhall ?. Its all the same van !
    I Expect the Renault ones are imported and the Vauxhall ones are local.

    Nah both are made in Luton, maybe not for long though…

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    August 13, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Chris, I would go with the Renault ones as well. Pretty obvious they are better quality just look at how much more they are. Plus you have the added bonus of having a spare spring just incase you ever need one. :lol1:

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    August 13, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    I can sympathise Chris.

    Don’t get me started 😕

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    August 13, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    bit mellow today Phill

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    August 13, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    :lol1: :lol1:

    Would you believe I actually originally composed a 500 word essay in reply…then thought Nah!!..

  • Nigel Hindley

    Member
    August 13, 2009 at 10:45 pm
    quote Phill:

    :lol1: :lol1:

    Would you believe I actually originally composed a 500 word essay in reply…then thought Nah!!..

    I would Phil yes! 😀 😀 😀

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    August 14, 2009 at 7:30 am
    quote Phill:

    :lol1: :lol1:

    Would you believe I actually originally composed a 500 word essay in reply…then thought Nah!!..

    actually i was expecting a book by now, :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    August 14, 2009 at 8:03 am

    Hey guys, seeing this has reminded me to ask about the Fiat 120 somthingorother van.

    I had a client buy one and bring it straight here from the dealer for signing. It was not booked in, and it has sat here for 3 weeks until I could find the time to fit it in.

    Its done 74klm’s, literally from the dealer to here.

    The client picked it up on Friday and drove it to his factory 10 klm’s away. When he went to go home, it is sitting in a pool of oil.

    He rings the dealer and they get it picked up by a tow truck.

    The client rings me today and says that Fiat may have to replace the bottom half of the motor as it has such bad corrosion, its leaking oil from every seal.

    Are Fiats that bad? They are a new model here, but have been in Europe for a while obviously. I’ve just had another client buy the 160 version, and wants me to sign it too. Should I park it on the dirt in case it drops oil while I’m signing it do you think?

    I rather like what the van has to offer and was considering trading up to one, but not so sure now 😕

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    August 14, 2009 at 8:07 am
    quote Shane Drew:

    Are Fiats that bad?

    definition of a FIAT

    Fix It Again Tomorrow :lol1:

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    August 14, 2009 at 8:13 am
    quote Phill:

    :lol1: :lol1:

    Would you believe I actually originally composed a 500 word essay in reply…then thought Nah!!..

    lol, you’d not believe how many times i’ve done that, then by the time i’ve re-read it i’ve calmed down and binned it cos i can’t be bothered anymore!

    just done it now in fact!

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    August 14, 2009 at 8:30 am

    shane you don’t trade up to a fiat.

    don’t squeegee to hard on the side panels.

    in this economic climate i have decided to buy the vauxhall part as it did last the warranty period and 1 month.

    as this purchase has added a sale to the parts inventory do you think they may stock it in future.

    got to keep the Luton boys in work

    chris

  • Angelique Muller

    Member
    August 14, 2009 at 11:46 am
    quote Ian Johnston:

    quote Shane Drew:

    Are Fiats that bad?

    definition of a FIAT

    Fix It Again Tomorrow :lol1:

    Our local mechanic can’t say the word Fiat without another f-word in front of it…. 😮

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    August 14, 2009 at 11:49 am
    quote Angelique Muller:

    quote Ian Johnston:

    quote Shane Drew:

    Are Fiats that bad?

    definition of a FIAT

    Fix It Again Tomorrow :lol1:

    Our local mechanic can’t say the word Fiat without another f-word in front of it…. 😮

    😮 oh dear……

  • John Childs

    Member
    August 16, 2009 at 8:52 pm
    quote Ian Johnston:

    definition of a FIAT

    Fix It Again Tomorrow :lol1:

    And, along the same lines…

    LOTUS

    Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious. 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    August 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    And the others….

    ALFA: Aging Latin Fuckwit’s Ambulance.

    ASTON MARTIN: A Silly Toy Of Neurotic Middle Aged Rich Toffs Investing Needlessly

    AUDI: Another Useless Deutsche Invention.

    BMW: Bought My Wife; Brings Me Women; Big Money Waster; Broke My Wallet; Babe Magnet Wannabe, ‘Bavarian Manure Wagon!’

    CADILLAC: Crazy And Demented Idiots Like Large American Cars.

    CHEVROLET: Can Hear Every Valve Rattle On Long Extended Trips.

    CHRYSLER: Can’t Have Refund, You’re Stuck Leasing Edsel’s Replacement. Company Has Recommended You Start Learning Engine Repair!

    DODGE: Drips Oil, Drops Grease Everywhere. And how about – Dad’s Old Dead Garage Experiment. And – Don’t Over Drive Gutless Engines.

    EDSEL: Every Day Something Else Leaks. More to add to the Edsel’s woes

    FIAT: Failed Italian Automotive Technology, Feeble Italian Attempt (at) Transportation; or the well known favourite – Fix It Again Tony!

    FORD: Fix Or Repair Daily; Fast Only Rolling Downhill; First (or Fails) On Race Day; Found On Road Dead (thanks Sameer P): Funding Our Retirement Daily (from a mechanic`s point of view); and perhaps best of all: Driver Returning On Foot (Ford spelled backwards!)

    GMC: Greatest Made Chevy

    HOLDEN: Holes, Oil Leaks, Dents, Engine Noises, and from Jason we have – Heaps Of Loud Disgusting Engine Noises. Come on Aussie come on!

    HONDA: Had One Never Did Again; Hold On, ‘Nother Dickhead Arriving; plus (and this is a true rarity among these acronyms) one that says something positive about the car – Happy Owners Never Drive Anything (else)

    HYUNDAI: A bitter one – Hope You Understand Nothing’s Driveable And Inexpensive; and a clever one – Hang Your UNDerwear Anywhere Inside

    ISUZU: It Sucks, Unless Zero Used

    JAGUAR: Junk Always Going Under At Repair Shop.

    JEEP: Once again, a bitter one – Junk Engineering Executed Poorly; and a clever one – Just Enough Engine Power

    KIA: Kick It Again; Keep It Away; Kill It Anyway, and another – Kills Innocent Americans

    LOTUS: Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious. It’s no coincidence that the acronym for the the Lotus Owners Of New York car club is LOONY!

    MAZDA: Mostly Always Zipping Dangerously Along; Made After Zero Design Analysis. Z’s are always hard to work into these things

    MERCEDES: Many Expensive Repairs Can Eventually Discourage Extra Sales

    MG: Merciless Garbage; Money Guzzler; MG-B: Might Go Backwards; the new MG-F: Might Go Forwards

    MINI: Moron Inside Notably Insane

    MINIVAN: Manhood Is Nonexistent, I’m Vasectomized And Neutered.

    MITSUBISHI: Mostly In The Shop Undergoing Big Investments, Sometimes Halfway Incomplete; and another – Motor Is Tough, Sounds Unbelievably Bad, Intimidates Slow Hondas Incessantly

    MOPAR: Move Over, Professionals Are Racing, Mostly Old Parts And Rust

    NISSAN: Needs Imminent Salvage So Abandon Now. You have been warned!

    OLDSMOBILE: – Old Ladies Driving Slowly Make Others Behind Infuriatingly Late Everyday; and another – Old Ladies Drive Slow – Mostly Off Bridges Into Lake Erie!

    PLYMOUTH: Please Let Your Mother Out Under The Hood!

    PONTIAC: People On Narcotics Think It’s A Cadillac

    PORSCHE: Proof Of Rich Spoilt Children Having Everything.

    SAAB: Send Another Automobile Back; Swedish Automobiles Always Breakdown; Start Adding Additional Brakefluid; Sad Attempt At Beauty. !

    SUBARU: Screwed Up Beyond All Repair Usually

    SUZUKI: Space Usually Zero Unless Kids Inside

    TORANA: Tons Of Rust And No Acceleration. And the SLR variant – Slightly Less Rust

    TOYOTA: The One You Ought To Avoid, They Overcharge You On Their Accessories, and Take Off Your Oversized Tires Asshole

    TRIUMPH: This Really Is Unreliable Man, Please Help; and another – Tried Repairing It Until My Parts Hurt!

    VOLVO: Very Odd Looking Vehicular Object; Very Old Lazy Vehicle Owner.

    VW: Very Weird; Virtually Worthless.

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    August 17, 2009 at 7:50 am
    quote Peter Normington:

    MINI: Moron Inside Notably Insane

    that one is spot on :lol1: :lol1:

  • George Zerbino

    Member
    August 17, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Had this list for a very long time:

    A C U R A
    All Cars Usually Require Adjustment
    Americans Can Underestimate Routine Accidents
    Another Case of a Useless Requested Acronym?
    Another Crummy, Useless, Rotten Automobile
    Any Child Understands Real Automobiles
    Asia’s Curse Upon Rural America
    Automobile Causes Universal Road Accidents
    Awful, Crappy, Unreliable, Rusty Automobile

    A L F A
    Another Lemon From Antonio

    A M C
    A Mutated Car
    A Morons Car
    All Makes Combined
    All Major Cost
    All Muscle Car
    Afro Motor Company
    Ain’t Merely Chevy
    Another Major Catastrophe
    Another Miracle Car

    A U D I
    Automobile Under Demonic Influence
    Awfully Unsafe Designs Implemented
    Accelerates Under Demonic Influence
    All Un-informed Drivers Insulted
    All Unnecessary Devices Installed
    Always Undermining Deutsche Intelligence
    Always Unsafe Designs Implemented
    Another Ugly Deutsche Invention
    Automobile Unsafe Designs, Inc.

    B E E T L E
    Battered Everywhere, Expect To Lose Engine

    B M W
    Babbling Mechanical Wench
    Babe Magnet On Wheels
    Barely Moving Wreck
    Bavarian Manure Wagon
    Bayersher Mist Wagon
    Beastly Monstrous Wonder
    Beautiful Masterpiece on Wheels
    Beautiful Mechanical Wonder
    Big Money Waste
    Big Money. Why?
    Big Money Works
    Bimbette Motoer Weapon
    Blasphemous Motorized Wreck
    Bought My Wife
    Born Moderately Wealthy
    Bowel Movement Wagon
    Break My Window
    Breaks Most Wrenches
    Brings Me Women
    Brings More Women
    Broke My Wallet
    Broken Money Waster
    Broken Money Works
    Broken Monstrous Wonder
    Brutal Money Waster
    Bumbling Mechanical Wretch
    Business, Money and Woman

    B O W T I E
    Big Over Weight Tired Impotent Engines

    B U I C K
    Big Ugly Imitation Chrome King
    Big Ugly Import Car Killer
    Big Ugly Indestructable Car Killer
    Big Ugly Indestructable Compact Killer

    C A M A R O
    Can’t America Make A Real One?
    Cool American Made Automobile, Runs Outstanding

    C H E V R O L E T
    Can Handle Everything, Runs Over Limbs, Even Trees
    Can Hear Every Valve Rap On Long Extended Trips
    Car Has Extensive Valve Rattle On Long Extended Trips
    Cheap, Hardly Efficient, Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time
    Cheap Hot-Running Engines, Very Rusted Out, Lose Every Time
    Chews Heads, Eats Valves, Runs ONly Low ET’s
    Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques
    Cracked Head, Every Valve Rattles, Oil Leaks Every Time
    Cracked Head, Every Valve Rattles, Oil Leaks, Exhaust Too

    C H E V Y
    Charged HEaVilY
    Cheapest Heap Ever Visioned Yet

    C H R Y S L E R
    Car Having Really Yucky Stupid Lazy Engine Runs
    Could Have Remained Your Sickly Lame Elderly Relative’s

    C I T R O E N
    Crap Interior Terrible Road-holding Owned Entirely by Nutters

    D A T S U N
    Detroit’s Angry Towards Sneaky Unscrupulous Nips

    D O D G E
    Daily Overhauls Do Get Expensive
    Dead Old Dog Going East
    Damn Old Dirty Gas Eater
    Darn Old Dirty Gas Eater
    Dead On Day Guarantee Expires
    Dead On Delivery, Go Easy
    Dead On Delivery, Guarantee Expired
    Dead Or Dying Garbage Emitter
    Dear Old Dads Garage Experiment
    Dem Oil Dudes Go Everywhere
    Drips Oil, Drops Grease Everywhere

    E D S E L
    Every Day Something Else Leaks

    E F I
    Extra Freaking Insurance

    F I A T
    Failed Italian Automotive Technology
    Failure In Automotive Technology
    Famous Italian Automobile Triumph
    Feeble Italians Aren’t Trustworthy
    Feeble Italian Attempt at Transportation
    Fired Idiot Assembled This!
    Fix It All the Time
    Fix It Again Tomorrow
    Fix It Again, Tony!
    Flaky Italians Assemble Trash
    Flipped It Again Tony
    Found In A Taxi
    Found In A Trench

    F O R D
    Follow Our Rusty Dogsled
    Foot On Road Decelerates
    Forced On Reluctant Drivers
    Formed Of Rejected DNA
    Forwarded Once; Return Denied
    Forward Only; Reverse Defective
    Forlorn, Old, Ratridden Dustbin
    Fork Over Repair Dough
    Fouled Out Re-done Dodge
    Frequent Overhaul, Rapid Deterioration
    Free Or Reduced Drastically
    Frequent Opinion Really Disappointed
    Fumes and Odors Readily Detectable
    Funny Old Rattling Dump
    Fantastically Orgasmic Realistic Dream
    Finally Obsolete Racing Device
    Fireball On Rear Denting
    First On Road to Dump
    Fix Or Recycle Dilemma
    Flipping Over Results in Death
    Flipped Over Roadside Disaster
    Driver Returns On Foot (Backwards)
    Fabricated Of Refried Dung
    Fast Only Rolling Downhill
    Failed On Race Day
    Fails On Rainy Days
    Fault Of R&D
    Features O.J. and Ron`s DNA
    First On Race Day
    First On Recall Day
    First On Rust and Deterioration
    First Over Rated Disaster
    First Over Rated Dodge
    Fix Or Repair Daily
    Flip Over Read Directions
    FlOoReD
    Found On Roadside Dead
    Found On Russian Dump
    Found Out-Right Dangerous
    For Off Road Driving
    For Old Retired Dudes
    Fraternal Order of Restored DeSoto’s
    Freakin’ Owner Real Dumb!
    Frigin’ Old Rebuilt Dodge

    G E O
    Good Engineering Overlooked

    G M
    Garbage Makers
    General Maintenance
    General Mistake
    Generally Miserable
    Generous Motors
    Grossly Misconceived
    Grungy Merchandise
    Gypped Me

    G M C
    Garage Man`s Companion
    Generally Mediocre Cars
    Get More Chicks
    Gigantic Mountains of Crap
    God’s Mechanical Curse
    Got A Mechanic Coming?
    Got More Crap
    GrandMothers Car
    Great Mountain Climber
    Great Motor Car

    G T I
    Get’cher Tools Out
    Got Tossers Inside

    H O N D A
    Had One, Never Did Again
    Hallmark Of Non-Destructible Automobiles
    Hand Over Dollars to Asians
    Hang On, Not Done Accelerating
    Happy Owners Never Drive Anything (Else)
    Heck Of a Nice Damn Automobile
    Helping Out Nips Destroying America
    Hold Overs Not Doing Anything
    How Odd-No Darn Acceleration

    H Y U N D A I
    Hope You Understand Nothing`s Driveable And Inexpensive

    J A G U A R
    Jews And Germans Usually Argue Retail

    J E E P
    Jinxed Engine has Extra Parts
    Jumps Everything Ever Parked
    Jump Excitedly in Every Pothole
    Junk Electrical and Emissions Parts
    Junk Engineering Executed Poorly
    Junk Everyone Eyes for Parts
    Just Eat Every Pickle
    Just Eats Every Part
    Just Empty Every Pocket
    Just Everyone Else’s Parts

    L O T U S
    Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious

    M A Z D A
    Model All Zoids Drive Aimlessly
    Most Always Zipping Dangerously Along

    M G
    Money Guzzler

    M G B
    Might Go Backwards

    M G F
    Might Go Forwards

    M I A T A
    My Intention: Always To Accelerate

    MOPAR
    Massively Over-Powered And Respected

    MONTE CARLO
    Makes Old Nissans Take Every Car Around Racing, Losing Only

    M O P A R
    Manny Odd Parts Arranged Randomly
    Miscellaneous Oddball Parts Assembled Ridiculously
    Mitsubishi’s Over Priced American Replicars
    Most Often Passed At Races
    Most Original Parts Replaced
    Mostly Old Paint And Rust
    Mostly Old Parts And Rust
    Move Over Power Approaching Rapidly
    Mutilates Other Products At Races
    My Only Problems Are Repairs
    My Old Pig Ain’t Running

    M U S T A N G
    Motor Under Strain, Transmission Almost No Good

    N A P A
    Never Any Parts Available

    N I S S A N
    Nasty Import Sucks Savings Away to Nippon
    Now In Some Shotty Automobile Nightmare

    O L D S M O B I L E
    Oh Look Darn, Some Massive Oil Burning Idiot’s Leaking Everything
    Old Ladies Driving Slowly Make Others Behind Infuriatingly Late Everyday
    Old Loose Dented Sheet Metal Outdated By Infamies Like Edsel
    Overpriced, Leisurely Driven Sedan Made Of Buick`s Irregular Leftover Equipment

    P I N T O
    Paid Inspector Nicely To Overlook
    Put In New Transmission Often
    Put In Nickel To Operate

    P L Y M O U T H
    Please Leave Your Money Out Under The Hood

    P O N T I A C
    Poor Old Nut Thinks It’s A Cadillac

    P O R S C H E
    Phased Out Racer-Still Can’t Hold Engine
    Please Overlook Really Shotty Cardboard Horrible Engine
    Proof Of Spoiled Children Having Everything
    Pulled Over Regularly So Cops Have Enough
    Puts Out Really Smoky Carbonate Hazardous Emissions

    P R O T O N
    Possibly the Riskiest Option to Travel On-road Nowadays

    R E N A U L T
    Retarded Engine No Acceleration Ugly Lump of Trash

    S A A B
    Sad Attempt At Beauty
    Send Another Automobile Back
    Sorry Auto, Always Broken
    Such An Arrogant Boy
    Still Ain’t A Bimmer
    Swedish Automobiles Always Breakdown
    Swedish Automobiles Always Broken

    S M A R T
    Slow Moving And Really Tiny

    S T P
    Stop Those Pistons

    S U B A R U
    Send Undercover Boat And Radioactive Uranium
    Shot Up Bad A– Racing Unit
    U R A BUS (Backwards)

    T O Y O T A
    Taking Our Yen Out — Thanks All
    The One You Ought To Avoid
    Too Often Yankees Overprice This Auto

    T R I U M P H
    The Risk Involving Useless Machinery Pays Heavily
    This Really Is Unreliable Man, Please Help!
    Tired Repairing Until My Parts Hurt

    V O L V O
    Very Odd Looking Vehicular Object

    V W
    Virtually Worthless

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