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  • can i remove t-shirt lettering from garment?

    Posted by PhilB on January 29, 2005 at 2:49 pm

    This is a question for all you T shirt guys.

    At times when pressing my designs i’m gettng a faint line (of gum?) left on the shirt where the edge of the carrier backing has been.

    I’m using Victory Hotmark with a clam press. Different heat and pressure settings don’t seem to make a difference. Any thoughts?

    Anything that will take it off or is the shirt ruined?

    Thought i’d ask here before ringing Victory for help on Monday.

    Phil

    Alan Drury replied 19 years, 3 months ago 7 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Paul Rollason

    Member
    January 29, 2005 at 3:02 pm

    Hi Phil

    Does this happen with all colours or only some colours.

    We have found the backing more sticky on some colours than others

    Paul R

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    January 29, 2005 at 3:03 pm

    I get the same thing with Hot Mark, mainly with the white. Rub the mark with your fingernail to loosen and then repress and it will go. My press has a teflon coated platten so a second press straight on is no problem, teflon sheet would work as well.
    Alan

  • PhilB

    Member
    January 29, 2005 at 3:17 pm

    Ive only pressed with white and yellow, never had a problem with yellow.

    I’m pressing for 20 secs, im going to try a few presses with the white on starting from 10 secs.

    Will let you know if i notice and improvement.

    Can i press over the vinyl i have just put on or will it damage it, the press is teflon coated too.

    Phil

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    January 29, 2005 at 4:56 pm

    I press at 170 for 18 seconds, allow to cool and remove backing then repress. This really pushes Hot Mark into the garment. I have a Jarin Industries/Europa Leisure press HF 4500 sports press (www.europa-leisure.co.uk) with Teflon coated head and repressing directly over the top causes no problems at all, uncoated heads may need a Teflon sheet or similar.
    Alan

  • PhilB

    Member
    January 30, 2005 at 4:31 pm

    Do you repress for another 18 seconds?

    Phil

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    January 31, 2005 at 9:59 am

    I have done but half that seems to do as good a job. On the occassions I have spoken to Victory they agree that a second press may be better. I am very pleased with the results. Yesterday I tried Hot Mark with Griphiflex PU, same file cut and pressed on same material using recomended temperature and pressures, both washed and dried THEN ironed (by very experience wife) using a domestic iron, BOTH came off/damaged within seconds.
    Alan

  • PhilB

    Member
    January 31, 2005 at 10:04 pm

    Sorry you’ve lost me, Graphiflex PU?

    I spoke to Victory today, they said the lines left by the edge of the carrier sheet was due to too high a pressure. I have only had it happen with the white too.

    Any comments?

    Phil

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    February 1, 2005 at 8:52 am

    Victory have never said to me about the pressure causing the residue and I do use firm pressure but it only happens on the white, for me not a huge issue. Graphiflex PU is a similar product to Hot Mark it feels harder and thicker although it seems to cut and weed ok the main point is that the blurb states you can ‘iron over without protecting – iron over without covering – it will not wrinkle or smudge with heat’ (taken from ESP from Graphityp January 2005) The back to back test I did didn’t really hold this up, it faired no better than Hot Mark which has never professed to be ironable, a little dissapointing. Even if you tell the customer not to iron over, or/and put a label in the garment to that effect you know that some customers WILL iron over and the print WILL damage.
    Alan

  • Paul Rollason

    Member
    February 1, 2005 at 9:00 am

    Hi Guys

    On a slightly different topic, Has anyone used a transfer removal spray with hotmark or nylmark.

    We have had limited success with removing garment films in the past however there is always a little glue residue left over.

    Anybody got any tricks and tips

    Paul R

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    February 1, 2005 at 10:41 am

    Obviously I very rarely make mistakes because us profeshunuls seldom do – but I found that by repressing if you were quick you could peel Hotmark off and pressing again would reduce the glue stain. Once corrected logo was put on you would not notice. This only really is true for small lettering and logos – large stuff will always show.
    Alan

  • juddr

    Member
    February 2, 2005 at 2:17 am

    I have had this problem, when pressing for too long or with the heat up too high.. especially when using thin material like the videoflex gold. i have had good sucess removing this excess glue or whatever it us by using the clear transfer paper and the tip of a hot iron, by placing the transfer film back onto the applied transfer then touching the tip of the iron over the affected area the glue will stick to the transfer film, if you do this several times it will be completely gone from your apparel.

  • PhilB

    Member
    February 7, 2005 at 10:32 pm

    I’ve been pressing a few black shirts with white logos and didn’t want the hassle of rubbing the gum lines off if and when they appeared.

    So this is what I do now, Its a bit of a hassle but I think it’s better to avoid the gum line rather than deal with it.

    I cut some non stick baking paper (plain paper used in photo) into strips and placed it between the carrier and shirt so the edges of the carrier are on the paper and not the shirt. Then press as usual.

    Phil

  • Alan Nisbet

    Member
    February 9, 2005 at 11:03 am

    Hi PhilB,

    What material are you using on the T-Shirts?

    I have been using Super Flex, Extra Flex, Flock, and Thermo Reflective all from xpres, I have never had the problems you have, my heat press is the Adkins and I always use silicon paper for extra protection (Used to protect garment or product during heat application)

    As I only used materials from xpres I would appreciate any recommendations of any other materials for t-shirt printing other than Screen Print.

    Thank You

    Nizzy

  • Carrie Brown

    Member
    February 9, 2005 at 2:25 pm

    We use the victory garment films and have done so for a couple of years and occassionally we have had gum lines … but it doesnt leave a mark everytime and sometimes it does not weed very well from the backing ….. so we tend to think that it is more to do with the material of the film … maybe worth while letting Victory know? It doesnt have a great shelf life as far as I am aware either?

    😀

  • Nigel Pugh

    Member
    February 9, 2005 at 3:30 pm

    Just to iron out if you like a few ???? about Grafiflex PU.

    You can iron directly over this material but it does have limitations, i.e. if the temp of the iron is over 60 degrees C then you will damage the PU material.

    Hope this has helped.

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    February 9, 2005 at 4:32 pm

    Carrie I wasn’t aware that Hot Mark from Victory had any specific shelf life, I can’t find it on any blurb – did Victory tell you this and how long is the life?
    Alan

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