• Can i recycle Vinyl?

    Posted by Thomas Peachey on November 6, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    quick Questions for you guys and gals…..

    Can you recycle Vinyl in a ‘Blue bin’ or would it be general waste. Council are AGAIN ripping me off with prices of bins as well as the business rates. If i can get away with a Recycling Bin then i will, as most of my stuff is either card tube, Vinyl or the wax paper. Seems a shame to put it to landfill and i cant really burn it! Gotta do the green thing!

    I am really anti council ATM. I mean trying to be ‘green’ is so expensive. the normal black bins are a hell of a lot cheaper. wheres the incentive? The only Incentive is the personal feeling where you can give yourself a pat on the back for doing the ‘right’ thing!

    Cheers

    Tom :lol1:

    Robert Lambie replied 13 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 19 Replies
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  • David Rogers

    Member
    November 6, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    The general consensus is "no" to being totally green.

    Nobody want the paper liner as it’s silicone coated, nobody want the vinyl as it’s adhesive coated.

    Cardboard tubes / boxes…well yes…local cardboard recyclers.

    Vinyl roll protective ends – some suppliers like them back as a recycling initiative otherwise it’s ‘plastic waste’.

    Dave

  • Thomas Peachey

    Member
    November 6, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Cheers Dave. i can sleep tonight! lol.

    I think its mad. If only we could melt it down and make more vinyl, would make up for the waste when weeding!

    Thanks again

    tom

  • Nigel Hindley

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 12:49 am
    quote Thomas Peachey:

    Cheers Dave. i can sleep tonight! lol.

    I think its mad. If only we could melt it down and make more vinyl, would make up for the waste when weeding!

    Thanks again

    tom

    we give all our odds and ends to local schools and nuseries, they love it! so totally recycled or at least its going in someone elses bin! 🙂

    Nigel

  • Matty Goodwin

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    As Nigel says…
    Give it to a local school, nursery, youth club.
    They love it!

    Matt

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    no matter how its given away or used, its not being recycled. whether we use it to make signs or kids to cover walls at school. its still being used, it still exists.

    i would "imagine" vinyl can be melted down. not to be used for vinyl again of course, but to make pretty much any sort of combined waste product like "roll ends"
    my understanding is that the only real reason Sign VINYL cannot be recycled is because of the silicone layer on the carrying paper, which is separated from the vinyl and binned. However, i know of one UK company that has just introduced "Carrying paper" FREE vinyl. which i imagine to be the first totally recyclable vinyl on the UK market…. a product which i intend using for work of our own. i will also be posting my finds etc once ive enough on it to give feedback.

  • Thomas Peachey

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Thats different, won’t be like an inflatable dart-board will it? 😉
    Please let me know of your findings, i need an ‘edge’ over the local ‘daddys’ of the sign world!

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    quote Thomas Peachey:

    Thats different, won’t be like an inflatable dart-board will it? 😉
    Please let me know of your findings, i need an ‘edge’ over the local ‘daddys’ of the sign world!

    used for the proper applications it wont be. but i doubt very much its going to suit most applications. I’m looking for eco-products to help promote my business as an eco-friendly sign firm. not save myself a few quid on dumping charges.
    we dump a full sprinter van of paper, card, alluminium etc about twice a week… wheelie bins are not an option. still.. its lightweight and costs about a tenner to dump. ditch your wheelie bins and just drop your waste directly at the ladnfill site.

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 8:29 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    quote Thomas Peachey:

    Thats different, won’t be like an inflatable dart-board will it? 😉
    Please let me know of your findings, i need an ‘edge’ over the local ‘daddys’ of the sign world!

    used for the proper applications it wont be. but i doubt very much its going to suit most applications. I’m looking for eco-products to help promote my business as an eco-friendly sign firm. not save myself a few quid on dumping charges.
    we dump a full sprinter van of paper, card, alluminium etc about twice a week… wheelie bins are not an option. still.. its lightweight and costs about a tenner to dump. ditch your wheelie bins and just drop your waste directly at the ladnfill site.

    get one of these Rob, landfill only one a month

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … or&start=0

  • Thomas Peachey

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 8:45 pm

    I’m afraid saving a few quid is the highest on my list, just had to bury my last business due to massive overheads, dnt wanna do the same with this one! Being eco friendly is 3rd highest as infront of that is being successful for my family! I was going to local tip bvut I was busted as its trade waste, ooops! Shouldn’t have signwritten the car. The search continues…… Cheers for the comments guys, the best forum I’ve been on!

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    actually looks a very good idea ian… seriously need to do something. i was considering getting a company in to do the picking up etc but the paper not being recyclable is the killer. but this would cut down general waste build up allot.
    so its about £2000?
    im looking to put central heating in our units, trying to get it priced this week if im lucky. so would be two good areas covered thats been a thirn in our side over the years, for the winter coming…

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    November 7, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    give me a call if your interested in one, have customer that sells them, at a good rate.

    It’s not the cost of dumping that’s the problem, it the running after it, less volume = less trips= less wages + less diesel.

    also a lot tidier, nothing blowing about

    Ian

  • Nigel Hindley

    Member
    November 8, 2010 at 12:13 am
    quote Robert Lambie:

    no matter how its given away or used, its not being recycled. whether we use it to make signs or kids to cover walls at school. its still being used, it still exists.
    .

    Rob, everything that is in this universe still exists whatever form it is in even if its vapour.

    Giving vinyl to schools etc IS recycling, it is giving the vinyl another ‘life’, maybe not its last life in that form, – but it is being recycled.

    It may, however these schools use it, end up back in a bin, though it will in many cases save using paint or other ‘sticky back plastic’ or any other materials that would be purchased to make crafts and pictures so it may save the environment in a small way and save the school money also.

    I now get a ‘good’ feeling knowing that not only is it not going directly to landfill but that it being used and truly appreciated. I get regular feedback from the schools and nurseries and we even got some vinyl back in the form of a thank you card made by the kids from the Vinyl.

    Our company though small compared to many does all it can to recycle everything, we have spent many hours a few years ago trying to find ways to recycle vinyl and just couldn’t so this was the best possible way of doing it. We do what many consider ott – we use manual tools over power tools whenever we can. We compost our food waste and even have a wormery, we encourage all our staff to do the same at home and many get into he practise after doing this at work

    Anyway we consider that giving vinyl away IS a valid form of recycling and even if vinyl does become a waste easy to recycle in the traditional way, giving it to schools is something we would still do as it could still be ‘recycled’ again when the school have finished with it.

    Nigel

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 8, 2010 at 12:30 am
    quote Nigel Hindley:

    Giving vinyl to schools etc IS recycling, it is giving the vinyl another ‘life’, maybe not its last life in that form, – but it is being recycled.

    i see what you mean Nigel and agree with you to an extent, but…
    whether we lift the vinyl, stick it to a van, or the kids lift the vinyl and stick it to classroom wall, the same carrying paper is then chucked in the bin in same way we would. from here it cant be recycled… so not necessarily friendlier on the environment.
    where the good in it i think comes is because the kids get enjoyment out of the free vinyl from what would have went in the bin sooner, rather than later.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 8, 2010 at 10:00 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    quote Nigel Hindley:

    Giving vinyl to schools etc IS recycling, it is giving the vinyl another ‘life’, maybe not its last life in that form, – but it is being recycled.

    i see what you mean Nigel and agree with you to an extent, but…
    whether we lift the vinyl, stick it to a van, or the kids lift the vinyl and stick it to classroom wall, the same carrying paper is then chucked in the bin in same way we would. from here it cant be recycled… so not necessarily friendlier on the environment.
    where the good in it i think comes is because the kids get enjoyment out of the free vinyl from what would have went in the bin sooner, rather than later.

    Rob,if you want to really be friendly to the environment, then stop making signs, with non natural materials, they are totally unnecessary, and the world could live without them.
    its a bit hypocritical to claim to be enviromentally friendly, when still using a printer?
    All this "green stuff" is just another conspiracy anyway,

    Peter

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 8, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Peter i dont beleive in any of it. nor am i trying to preach "The Eco-way" :lol1:

    my whole outlook on the eco-products etc is not so i can become an eco-god and feel all warm good inside. 😉 not at all… it is the direction i am taking our company and have been for a couple of years now. this is purely a business tact, nothing more!

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 8, 2010 at 11:07 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    Peter i dont beleive in any of it. nor am i trying to preach “The Eco-way” :lol1:

    my whole outlook on the eco-products etc is not so i can become an eco-god and feel all warm good inside. 😉 not at all… it is the direction i am taking our company and have been for a couple of years now. this is purely a business tact, nothing more!

    Hypocrite 😉

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 8, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    :lol1: but why, where?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    November 8, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    only joking Rob.
    but being green "to comply" and promote your company in that way while saying you dont believe in it is a teeny bit hypocritical…. 😀

    Peter

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 8, 2010 at 11:18 pm

    oh yeh, well from that point of view, yeh "i am a total hypocrit!" im pruely jumping on the band wagon for financial gain only. my hands are up! :lol1:

    dont get me wrong, i think recycling and all is good, but i dont buy into the whole holes in ozone layer etc etc
    the whole green issues are only going to get heavier, so im moving with them and benefiting wherever possible. "we already have in many instances"…

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