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  • can anyone recommend a thinner flourescent vinyl?

    Posted by Ryan Fairweather on January 2, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    Hi guys! Hope you all had a pleasant xmas break?

    I have to do a Subaru WRC replica next Tuesday which is mostly flourescent yellow.
    Can anyone recommend a good supplier as my current stock is very thick (as they tend to be) and the Subaru have a couple of very deep recesses which run along the car which the vinyl needs to be blown into.

    cheers everyone

    Martin Pearson replied 17 years, 4 months ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    January 2, 2007 at 11:05 pm

    Ryan, sorry I can’t really help with a supplier as I have only ever used hexis as a supplier for flourecent and that is on the thick side as you have already stated. To be honest with you I thought it was all like that because it was the nature of the material.
    Can I just ask how much trouble you have selling it to customers because I always found they were unhappy about the price, especially compared to the life expectancy of the material. When given the option of either a 6 month vinyl or a 2 year vinyl they just lost interest at the price.

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    January 2, 2007 at 11:11 pm

    Like Martin, apart from the ridiculous price of fluorescent material, the short life-span is a big issue. If it’s yellow you are looking for, there are some nice bright yellows in the Mactac range of regular calendered vinyl. Not fluorescent, but not bad.

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    January 2, 2007 at 11:40 pm

    Andy, have you used oracle brimstone yellow? Now that is a bright yellow !!!

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    January 3, 2007 at 12:43 am

    I would never put Fluorescent on a vehicle. I have heard that it only lasts about 1 year outside.
    I’ve never even bought it, so I might be full of crap.
    But I can just imagine the client whining and coming back after it fades and expecting me to replace it for free, including peeling off the old stuff.

    I think Martin might have a good idea with that Oracal Brimstone Yeller.
    It’s very bright and if you got the 751 or 851 it would probably work very well for you. I’ve used it a lot in the 651.

    Love….Jill

  • Ryan Fairweather

    Member
    January 3, 2007 at 8:56 am

    That’s the discussion i have been having with him.

    I have explained the short life expectancy of the flouro and even compared it to the brighter oracle yellow’s (pretty close i have to say), but he has a bee in his bonnet about it being ‘flourescent’!

    This is why i tend to steer clear of these jobs to be honest!

    I left it with him last night that he would have to sign the invoice stating that it is against my recommendations and product guarantee’s for long term exterior use so we will see 😮

  • Neill Hague

    Member
    January 3, 2007 at 8:58 am

    Morning Ryan

    we use a load of fluorescent vinyl as a lot of our work is for the motor trade. Metamarks range is the thinnest we have found nearly like a normal vinyl, Mactac is not bad either.

    I would use Mactac 9807-00 (Luminous yellow) for the job you want to do
    a nice bright yellow, very similar to fluorescent yellow.

    thanks

    Neill

  • Ryan Fairweather

    Member
    January 3, 2007 at 9:01 am

    Morning Martin,

    thanks for that! Any chance of a supplier to save me engaging my Christmas brain this morning?

    cheers buddy

  • Gary Birch

    Member
    January 3, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    I ain`t recommending them in any way but Amari do Mactac. Be warned about there carriage charges tho.

    Cheers

    Gary

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 3, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    ive used allot of fluorescent over the years and i have always found the vinyl to be pretty crappy. as has been said its normally thick, and not very conformable.
    unless a shallow recess ryan, ide avoid stretching it into any Sharp or deep recessed areas. even if you manage to get it to stay in a deep recess it will whiten pretty fast where its been stretched.
    i think fluorescent vinyl is simply a white vinyl flood coated with fluorescent ink. a bit like colour matched vinyl as thats how that is done… well… thats how its done unless you buy 250 metres 1230 wide colour matched Cast.
    to prolong the colours life just laminate it. not sure how long you will get UV life but ide expect it to at least double the colours life.

    there are some fluorescent better than others… i used one once that had a nice sheen to it. i actually think it had a protect top coat/film but ill be damned if i remember where we got it. ive tried a few places now and ive never been able to get it again.
    fluorescent comes in with a 6 month life and the longest ive known is 2 year. if you can get the 2 year stuff and laminate i think the customer will get a decent life from it.
    cost is the next thing… its never cheap. if its cheap its normally short life.
    you then have the cost of clear vinyl laminate. 😕

    that said, i wonder how true a life the 3M diamond grade fluorescent yellow has for road signs… anyone?

    suppliers? Europoint display, Cox, Grafityp, Amari Plastics, Hexis

    i see ATC do a 2 year…
    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=22513

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    January 4, 2007 at 4:47 am

    Its funny really people offering a bright calendered or cast vinyl as an alternative at one point I would never have thought of that. A few years ago I kept seeing a van that had fluorescent chevrons on the back which not only covered the doors but also covered curved back of the shell and a very small part of the side. Spent a few weeks seeing it from a distance and marveling at the skill of the fitter because I knew I would never be good enough to make it conform to the shape of the curves like that.
    felt a bit disappointed when I eventually saw it up close up and discovered that they had cheated, they had covered the back doors with fluorescent but the bits that curved round the corner were done in a cast vinyl which pretty much matched the colour of the florescent.

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