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can anyone help with Digital Output in corel please?
Hi folks!
I have some newbie questions about Corel and large format printing.
Lately I have been designing quite abit for digital output for some clients. They dont have printers so they sub-contract it out, so I send the files directly to the printer.I usually design in a color mode in Corel 11 called "optimized for the web" to get really vibrant colors. The default color mode looks really washed out.
Will it print like that if they switch the settings and export it as a bitmap? I cant see the actual prints when they are finished. The supplier uses illustrator and photoshop mainly. I do send them a corel file so they can export from there. Sorry, but I dont know what printer they use or the rip program.
A couple of times they converted it and it didnt turn out quite the same. I would send them a bitmap but my computer is getting toooo old to handle such big files.
Thanks and I hope I covered everything here. Wanted to post jpegs of the difference but didnt realize that you cant in this forum.
Stevo
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Stevo
Personally I wouldn’t think what you doing is a good Idea.Surely you should be designing with the output method in mind.
I assume your designing In RGB then rather than CMYK if it’s web optimised?
Tim.
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The color pallete is in cmyk. I just wish i could see the finished prints, but the supplier lives about 2000 miles from here, so I’m not exactly sure how they ever turn out. My clients seemed happy the first couple times with the prints. But i’d like to know if there’s a diference in the output color from the color modes that I see on my screen.
Clear as mud right. 🙂
Thanks!
Stevo
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Why not get them to ouput a copy of the pallete Stevo and send you a copy.
Just an idea.
Tim.
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Opimised for web is rgb basically with web safer colours for view not output, when I send files to others to print, normally litho but this can apply to large format, I set the colour manager for adobe 1998 as the colour space and set to perceptual (centre bit in the cm) monitor as my monitor profile ie Mitsubishi Plus although generic is not too bad if one is not available, separation printer to Euroscale coated.
I design everything using the cmyk colour model, the reason colour may appear less vivid is because the colour maangement is simulating how it should print in cmyk and this has a smaller colour gamut than rgb. Trouble is even when you’ve done this there is still the variable the ‘printers’ end with their machine /media/profiles, so I generally send a printout to give them something to ‘aim’ at. If I understand correctly solvent inks have even less gamut than say your desktop printer using pigmanted or dye inks, my colleagues seem to struggle to reproduce a bright orange or vivid blue, thats the way it seems to be but generally colour manager on.
Alan D -
well, without getting technical… the Publish to PDF output is a bit crazy sometimes, I do trust CMYK outputs as they cant go wrong. We run the normal out of box setup in Colour Management with great success, the monitor setup works well with an ICC profile, it does tune the monitor very well, but Corel seems to look ‘duller’ then Illustrator, the vibrancy from illustrator/photoshop/adobe etc is fantastic, I cant knock it.
I try and steer clean of the RGB pallete, but pantone and CMYK values are normally quite safe. A few Pantone numbers are really bad.
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Out of interest Dave, does you output match the Corel or Illustrator screen display? and have you tried different settings in the Corel CM – generic settings are ok but they are duller than the ones I suggested. It also depends on if the CM was on when the rgb to cmyk conversion was done.
Regards
alan -
Yes, it does Alan. We just bought some Apple 20" flatscreens and the results look fairly good. Shall be checking over this fully over the next few months. I have a profiler for CRT’s (now i need one for LCD’s) which measures the colours and when you set that up in Colour management, the screen is corrected very well, I have put a printout of a brochure on the screen and printed result next to it and they are a pretty good match.
I haven’t played with the colour management settings too much, I know if I take a customers file (say from illustrator) and read it in, it will look a bit flatter on the screen, but when I output it the file it is fine.
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I reckon that changing the profiles in Corel’s CM will give you a very similar display to Illustrator. Keep us posted with your findings because colour management can be difficult to get right but can make or break a job.
Regards
alan D
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