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  • can anyone help with a mimaki JV5 question please?

    Posted by Robert Lambie on March 5, 2007 at 10:57 pm

    Before i ask this, i know very little about the JV5 as this post will tell… 😳
    i’ve just spotted that the JV5 carries 16 ink carts. obviously there is good reason for this and someone will probably explain… however, thats not my thought here…
    it says the machine comes with 16 no. 440ml carts as standard.
    if like other printers i know of, does this mean there has to be a constant 16 carts kept topped up or the machine will stop running?

    just curious is all… 🙄 😀

    Darren Groom replied 17 years, 1 month ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Jamie Wood

    Member
    March 5, 2007 at 11:38 pm

    They are usually set up as CMYK x 4. It is an uninterruptible supply, with I think 2 of each colour in use at a time, with full ones coming on line as
    others empty. The cartridges which are in use have lights underneath them.
    you can also remove cartridges while printing, and the JV5 will automatically switch to the next available full one without stopping. (I think!). Going for
    a demo on one next Thursday, so I should know a bit more then.

    Cheers,
    Jamie.

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    March 5, 2007 at 11:48 pm
    quote :

    with 16 no. 440ml carts as standard.

    thats about £1400 thought 12 220 ml carts in my machine was bad enough. still some people will require that amount of ink

    Chris

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    March 6, 2007 at 2:59 am

    thanks for the replay jamie… much appreciated mate.

    quote Chris Wool:

    quote :

    with 16 no. 440ml carts as standard.

    thats about £1400 thought 12 220 ml carts in my machine was bad enough. still some people will require that amount of ink

    Chris

    thats actually what i was thinking chris. 😕
    my grenadier comes with 12 carts… if one runs out the machine stops until it is replaced. even though the 12 is made up of the same 6 colours twice.
    If the JV5 is the same, as you said, that’s a hell of alot of ink to keep topped up.

    i recently switched to bulk ink, this meant i had to replace all my carts with new ones at around £40 each x 12no. you then have the bottles of ink on top of that. they will cost you about £135 each colour…
    that’s an expensive change if you feel bulk ink is the way to go… why not just supply the machine with the bulk ink system to begin with, or give the customer the option of the carts or the bulk ink. it would not cost the supplier anymore doing this, but it would make them less in future ink sales, as well as the whole conversion to bulk should that arise.

    as i said, just curious as i spotted the machine in sign update magazine tonight.

  • John Childs

    Member
    March 6, 2007 at 9:45 am
    quote Robert Lambie:

    it would make them less in future ink sales

    Asked and answered. 😀

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    March 6, 2007 at 12:06 pm

    If you look on the I-sub site there is a video explaining this reason. I have been told by Artsystems and AD young the machines aren’t really supposed to have a bulk ink system as the pumps aren’t designed to pull the ink through an extended system. I can’t answer for definite if this is the case as I do not use the bulk ink system here!

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    March 6, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    This link should help!

    http://www.i-subdigital.com/html/mimaki.html.

    This did work!!!!! (:)

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    March 6, 2007 at 12:18 pm
  • Darren Groom

    Member
    March 12, 2007 at 11:16 am
    quote Jamie Wood:

    They are usually set up as CMYK x 4. It is an uninterruptible supply, with I think 2 of each colour in use at a time, with full ones coming on line as
    others empty. The cartridges which are in use have lights underneath them.
    you can also remove cartridges while printing, and the JV5 will automatically switch to the next available full one without stopping. (I think!). Going for
    a demo on one next Thursday, so I should know a bit more then.

    Cheers,
    Jamie.

    spot on that man.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    March 12, 2007 at 3:54 pm

    the jv3-sp uses 2x CMYK.. so 8 carts of ink has to be available.

    I also believe the JV5 is continuous and keeps going, changing cart is relatively simple tho and it is front accessible.

    Remember health and safety, no ink can spill with a cart on refill.

    A big more designed production machine should use litres.

  • Darren Groom

    Member
    March 12, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    The JV5 will indeed never pause for ink (assuming you’re there to swap it before it uses two full cartridges)

    and yes, if you’re printing large coverage on 40 metres an hour it would use the lot in a pretty insane rate!

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