can anyone help please with new shop layout?

[Paul Rollason]

Can you post up what you have so far or a picture of you business card/letterhead to give us all something to go on.

paul r

[Lorraine Clinch]

And a picture of the premises?

[Paul Rollason]

And a decent bottle of wine :pink:

paul r

[Terry Beech]

i don’t really want to use my original logo never really liked it as i bought The business of some one Else and it was there design so this is my chance for a fresh start.
i don’t have a picture of the shop i could get one tomorrow but the large window is on the right then there is a normal door then the 2 smaller windows
sorry i cant be anymore help full

[Terry Beech]

i will gladly send you a bottle of wine if you can give me so good ideas, is int it had trying to design something for your self

[steve geary]

My first thoughts are;

Create a Logo of your Co. Name. Something custom and really nice.
The rest, keep simple and clean, getting the the most important point across.
Or go bonkers with prints… think about what type of clientle you want to attract, and think of what would impress them.

[Paul Franklin]

I too have been looking at a couple of shops near me to attract more passing trade for the merchandising side of our business.

The likely candidate has 2 large windows with a set of stile and rail double doors with large vision panels between the windows.

I can’t be a*rs?d doing any design work for them myself, anyone like to do it for me?

(This is all said very tongue in cheek, by the way)

[Terry Beech]

because your making signs for other people you think yours has to better and differnt perhaps i should keep it very simple

[Peter Normington]

Doctors aren’t healthier, or live longer than anyone else, so why should a sign maker have better signs? 😀

Peter

[Peter Normington]

Rolls Royce mechanics seldom own them 😀
Peter

[Marekdlux]

Gynecologists…. 😳
Well, you get the point. 😀
-Marek

[steve geary]

I wasn’t insinuating to make your logo Arrogant. My thoughts were that it should be some of your nicer work, to project a competent image. Something appealing. I’d prefer thinking clean, instead of simple. some of the most appealing signs I’ve seen are very clean (simple).. but not average or typical… not just a font typed out.
Not saying that I’m right or maybe I’m not even close.. just my first thoughts.
in the words of Dan Antonelli.. “sell them your design” people can go anywhere to get knock outs”

i’ll shut up now…..

steve

[Marekdlux]

Keep talking Steve. That’s good advice.
http://www.graphicd-signs.com/
Here is a link to Dan’s website where you can purchase his book “Logo design for small business 2”
-Marek

[steve geary]

yeah, Dan has some skills to say the least. I have the book, but haven’t read it yet. He gave that advice to someone on letteville the other day.
I’m still working on Mike Steven’s mastering layout.. I’m going to be re-reading that for a while. Good Stuff!

Back to the topic… Terry,
Just start looking around and seeing what you like. Every pic of something i like I save in a folder called “inspired”. A lot of that came from the portfolio here. I look at it frequently. Also, look at major magazines with ad’s done by bigger agencies who spend lots of money on market research.
Most of what i said earlier is just what’s been on my mind for marketing my business, based on advice I’ve got recently from various people.
.. oh, and whatever Peter says, read it twice. He’s a smart Cookie!

[Paul Franklin]

I’ve got a couple of the Big Book of Logos

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0688178 … eader-page

Always going back to them and leafing through the pages for inspiration as they are full of good ideas.

[Terry Beech]

just had a quick look at you site steve very good 😀 ill take a closer look later i understand the point every one seems to be getting across but as the saying gose you only get one chance to make a first impression and this is may chance to do that and i would like it to be the best i can do

[Andrew Boyle]

Terry,

I think you should create a simple easily adaptable logo

http://www.ingram-publishing.co.uk/page … ro_art.htm

Example 2
Creative Symbols

adapting existing shapes is an easy way to start…….

Cheers

Andrew

[Terry Beech]

i will have a bash tonight and get your opinions tomorrow
the bottle of wine still on offer if some one can come up with a good logo (drink1)

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Terry Beech:

the bottle of wine still on offer if some one can come up with a good logo (drink1)

now theres an offer i cant refuse 😉

nik

[Terry Beech]

go for it nik 😀

[steve geary]

quote Paul Rollason:

Can you post up what you have so far or a picture of you business card/letterhead to give us all something to go on.

paul r

or a name??

[Terry Beech]

the name is “just signs” there’s no point showing you the original logo because i want something different and it was pretty uninspiring

[steve geary]

got it :thumbsup:

[Terry Beech]

i am sat here look through the different forums for some ideas the same theme keeps coming up we can design for others and other forms of business but struggle doing it for our own company good job UK signboards is here to give us all help and inspiration

[Andrew Boyle]

initial idea

Cheers

Andrew

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[Nicola McIntosh]

nice one andy 😀

forgot to add…looks a bit like a builders merchants logo sorry 😳

nik

[Terry Beech]

good start andrew will you be wanting a can of what your drinking on the picture

[Phill Fenton]

I would change your business name. Signs are not just signs but can be works of art. “Just signs” seems a little derogatory and the name I think undersells the nature of signs. If you’re looking to design a new logo why not take the opportunity to re-name your business at the same time. You say you bought the business as a going concern so hopefully you will not be offended by my comments as presumably you didn’t come up with this name in the first place 😳

[Andrew Boyle]

your right Nik……..I think (?) it’s the triangle..just a start…….

Cheers

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[Peter Normington]

So when is a sign UNJUST

😕
Peter

[Terry Beech]

hi Phil i agree with you the name doesn’t do anything for me now i am moving into a shop would be a good time to do a name change but then that’s another headache what name do i use

[Andrew Boyle]

Give Us A Sign Lord 🙂

[Terry Beech]

its OK for you Andrew i got 2 weeks to sort this out and move in while he is giving us a sign can you also ask for a miracle

[Phill Fenton]

Wot about “Not Just Signs”

(It came to me in a vision 😕 )

[Terry Beech]

how dose any one else feel about the name just signs (?)

[Terry Beech]

not bad phill but logo would have to suit the name couldn’t have something corporate think it would have to be more funny or graphic
hope you Know what i mean 😕

[Andrew Boyle]

😀 (!)

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[Terry Beech]

guess you enjoy a challenge andrew

[Andrew Boyle]

Naw Terry,

been rushing about all day working then christmas shopping, hyper……. giving up…….IT’S CHRISTMAS

Good Luck….. 😀

[Terry Beech]

cheers dont get to stressed out thanks for the help its a good start given me something to think about

[Dennis Van Der Lingen]

grooooovy :funky:

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[Dennis Van Der Lingen]

i should really pay more attention to the opening post,

didn’t even get the name right :headbang2:

[steve geary]

a couple to maybe give you some ideas.. or not.

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[Terry Beech]

NICE ONE DENIS pimp my ride is one of my favorate programs on tv
wouldnt mind working more on this theme for shop front a van

[Terry Beech]

guys these are all looking good looks like a bottle will be going to someone the compitition is hotting up

[Terry Beech]

steve i really like your work seen some other stuff youve done what software programs do you use and how long have you been in this line of work

[steve geary]

thank you Terry,
I’m still Kinda’ Green compared to a lot of people here.
I started hand lettering in high school, but never did much. couldn’t develope the brush skills like I wanted to, but i was great with a pencil and markers freehand. did some airbrushing in college.
I started dabbling in vinyl around the mid ninetys just applying, but still never worked for a sign shop, i would just do jobs for my friends, once or twice a year, sketching the layout and getting vinyl from a local shop.
I learned corel first, but i got Flexi when i bought my equipment and started the business in the summer of ’02. Now i’m trying to learn photoshop, but mostly i use Flexi for all vinyl, corel for all print, or a combination of them.
It’s only this year that i’ve started to focus on developing my skills. Books, uksb, letterville, and a lot of people have helped me. It’s a long process.
I’m really trying to work on design, as well as business skills now.. I’m tired of being broke!

Thanks again for the compliment, keep seeking out and looking at other peoples work. Ther are tons of Fantastic people to get inspired from.

steve

[Dennis Van Der Lingen]

there,

that’s the right name

hope ya’ll like the pimpin’ i did :lol1:

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