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  • can anyone advise on the JV33 please is it any good?

    Posted by Nick Dowell on June 8, 2008 at 12:18 am

    Hi group,

    I am looking at investing in a large format printer and need one that will print and cut to a good standard and at a decent speed (don’t we all)

    After having a look around the 1.6m JV33 looks a good machine and the white inks could be extremely usefull…however I can not seem to find anywhere that confirms this is infact a print & cut machine – can anyone confirm?

    Next, I have only in the past had experience of using our versacam for print and cut work where it is all done on the 1 machine, what is everyone’s opinion of printing and then transfering over to a plotter to cut?

    Any advice would be much appreciated,
    many thanks

    Nick

    Brian Hays replied 15 years, 7 months ago 7 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Craig Brown

    Member
    June 8, 2008 at 8:39 am

    It’s not Print and Cut in the terms of one machine like the Roland range…but transferring onto another plotter with OPIS has never been a problem and registration has been very good.

    We have not gone down the white ink route with any of our JV3’s of 33’s
    due to lack of quality feed back (read into that what you may)

  • Nick Dowell

    Member
    June 9, 2008 at 8:06 am

    Thank Craig,

    Has anyone any feedback on the speed / quality of the machine? – I understand it is still relatively early day’s with the JV33.
    many thanks

    Nick

  • Andrew Marshall

    Member
    July 4, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    I currently have a new JV3 160SP. I bought it as a bundle including a 160fx plotter for either normal plotting vinyl work or print & cut. I have found it pretty good and have had no probs with it. I was going to buy a JV33 but because its in its early stages i didn’t bother, i’ve been bitten before buying "non tested" printers. Also there is only one head on the JV33, as good as it is if it goes then you have a massive bill to replace it. Because its not time tested no one really knows how long it will last, whereas the JV3 has 4 heads and can replace just one

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    September 13, 2008 at 8:03 am

    I’m thinking of upgrading to the jv33 when my jv3 2year warranty runs out, has anyone gone this route, and if so has anyone got any more comments on the 33

    Peter

  • David Rowland

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 7:59 am

    well i after date related head issues that was posted here a few months back, I keeping my 4 year old JV3!

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 8:13 am
    quote Peter Normington:

    I’m thinking of upgrading to the jv33 when my jv3 2year warranty runs out, has anyone gone this route, and if so has anyone got any more comments on the 33

    Peter

    Save your money Peter. The new machine is really not much different. 😉

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    Brian, I wasnt looking for a better machine, just that the warranty will soon be out, therefore do I spend 3k a year to extend it with mimaki, or about £1700 with a third party maintainance contract, or put the money towards a new machine and have another 2 years free from costs?

    it depends really on if I can get a good trade in deal. and if the jv33 has any problems that would prevent me buying it.

    Peter

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    The cost to change is not going to be cheap Peter.

    Personally I wouldn’t bother with a £3k warranty or a 3rd party one.

    There are plenty of people out there that can repair them. And their isn’t a huge amount to go wrong. Surely yours has another good few years at least left in it before you need to worry about another.

    BTW Alan dropped some money off this afternoon Peter. Do you need it or can I take it down the pub? 😉

    Dave do you have a warranty on your machine?

  • David Rowland

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    I am the warranty… the problem will be when/if a main board goes.

    i think we are now on 4th year…
    4-5 heads changed now….
    10-12 dampers…
    6 pumps…
    2 capping stations…
    50+ wipers…
    1 setting problem…
    1 firewire problem..
    1 environment problem.

    we got a weak magenta sensor… rip getting old… buying inks from cheapest supplier and rotating when one under cuts the other….. one broken head screw but works…

    machine is in daily use, a little slow but for the larger machine, I shall be taking a bit more of a back seat with it.

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 8:35 pm

    Do you know how much main boards are?

    Most of that other stuff is not going to be covered by a warranty anyway issit?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    I thought all parts and labour were covered by Mimaki’s warranty?
    sounds like Dave has spent a small fortune on his,

    It goes back to piece of mind, I dont want to mess around trying to find an engineer when things go wrong, I dont even want to think about having to spend hours changing heads, no more than I have a desire to change the oil in my truck.

    Yes I can do it, but I can make more money printing than fixing the thing.

    Peter

  • Jon Marshall

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    I’m pretty sure the 2 yr warranty covers everything and there are not many printer manufacturers doing that. We are probably going to order a JV33 in the next week or so.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 10:43 pm

    Heads with machines is a Grey area… if you caused the damage then you are liable to the cost, if you used it heavily (millions of dots) then it could be considered used.

    Heads and alignment can cost, but keep records of what goes in and out of a machine, a machine log is very sensilbe.

    i know rules stop you from advertising Brian, but I can ask a question that you can respond to a direct question about your products without breaking the rules (rule 2). I have in the past seen you advertising JV3’s/Mutohs on your stand at SignUK, at Coventry you were on Noel’s Stand, are you affiliated with Noel Silverskies on reselling equipment or are you actually selling machines directly which would mean you have some link with Hybrid (distributor), this means that you would be selling warranties, so is the costs mentioned here similar or have I miss understood your business on the hardware I have seen?

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Dave, we were on the Silverskies stand as we hadn’t intended on going to the Ricoh at all. We are not affiliated with them in any way. I have however known Noel a very long time since his days at Graphtec. He offered us some space so we decided to give it a go.

    We don’t sell warranties. And I would rather not discuss where we source equipment from here to be honest. However I can say it’s not a large part of our business & I wouldn’t sell a machine that I felt somebody didn’t need. Hence I thought maybe Peter was best of sticking with what he has. He has explained his reasoning, so I am not going to try & dissuade him from looking at the option of replacing if that’s what he wants.

    I would be interested in what percentage of people actually do take out an extended warranty. (?)

  • Brian Hays

    Member
    September 14, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    And Peter I am not suggesting you crack out your spanners if things go wrong. My car is now 3 years old & out of warranty. I am not going to give BMW a fortune for an extra year as piece of mind. And if they do go wrong I am not going to stick my head under the bonnet either! Will take a gamble that if anything does go wrong it won’t amount the the £1000+ they want to extend it.

    But that’s just me, each to their own. 🙂

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