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Building my own Flatbed Mounter / Laminator, pictures.
anyone made their own flatbed laminator?
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It’s certainly coming along Patrick, how well do you have it working so far, all good?
thanks for taking the time to post your pictures and showing us your project.
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works well but when the rams are pushing down maybe too much ,it almost takes 2 people to roll it across the 12ft, its got heavy bearings so I think i must have too much pressure but trying to find out spec of other tables is difficult.
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Can you not use a compressor gauge to limit the pressure to a specific setting, like we do in our spray guns?
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yes thats what im going to do but id love to knoew whwta bar of pressure the manufactured ones are
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between 2 to 3 if i remember right for general type mounting, but higher i would imagine for laminating.
If you cant push yours easy it must be very high. Also, by looks of it you are using a rubber roller like a laminater has, the mounting tables use a tight wound condensed foam type rubber. -
We got an engineer to make us one
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Great seeing these… what size of bed is that on yours denise?
I have a rollsroller and actually looking at possibly another, but much smaller as i have the 5.5m one.
bought rollers a couple of years back but never got round to building something. what i had in mind is much different to these work. less thought needed in the one i was doing. :lol1: -
Afternoon guys,
I thought this could be something I help with. I was heavily Involved with the design and subsequently R&D and manufacture of another popular brand of flatbed applicator, our machines roller pressure is set between 3 – 4.5 bar. this is mainly enough pressure is lift the roller up rather than apply pressure ‘down’ if the bed is flat and level the weight of the roller is normally enough.
I hope this helps.
O
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quote Robert Lambie:Great seeing these… what size of bed is that on yours denise?
I have a rollsroller and actually looking at possibly another, but much smaller as i have the 5.5m one.
bought rollers a couple of years back but never got round to building something. what i had in mind is much different to these work. less thought needed in the one i was doing. :lol1:I think it’s justs around 5x12ft
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welcome to the boards Omar….
good size and looks well built denise. do you get the use of it then, how you finding it?
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tight wound condensed foam type rubber.
where could i buy one of these rollers ??? anyone :yikes:
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Hi Denise was it expensive to get the actual table made and what top did you use and also what type of roller did you use and where did you get it ? sorry for all the questions
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quote Robert Lambie:welcome to the boards Omar….
good size and looks well built denise. do you get the use of it then, how you finding it?
We do use it, but only on large panels as you really need two people as its heavy. It does double up as our main work table in the print room
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quote Patrick Donaghey:tight wound condensed foam type rubber.
where could i buy one of these rollers ??? anyone :yikes:
We had quotes of £4-600 for a roller, the makers needed a spec on the rubber but we hadn’t a clue on that.
We bought a cheap laminator to use the rollers, but then our "good" laminated decided to throw a fit, so we kept the cheap lam and used the roller from the good one.
We still have a roller left doing nothing
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I think it cost about £2500.
The cutting top mat was about £250 because of the size.
We put thick mdf on for the top.
It lifts quite high which also increased the cost, in hindsite a smaller lifting unit could have saved another bit.
To be fare, we had a quote of £1000 for just a metal table
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litho print machines have many rollers of different sizes and compounds with bearing cups etc
i would imagine these would be ideal
they regularly get changed and repaired might be worth checking out local printers for anything surplusDerek
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I made mine a few years ago.
2 tables, each 3meters by 1.55meters wide.
They are on wheels and can be moved about. I usually keep them end to end so I get a 6 meter run.
The tables are VERY rigid, with gussets at each angle to prevent movement.
They have 10mm toughened glass tops.
The flatness of these is crucial. Any sag and the roller wont contact the table in that area, so pay up and get a decent engineer to make the tables for you.I had the roller made to my design, using a SOLID steel core, 200mm diameter by 1.55meters. A specialist rubber roller company applied the rubber – I think they used polyurethane –
The super heavy roller means that i dont need complicated hydraulic systems to press down on the graphic.
If I need to raise the roller off the table for any reason, I use wooden wedges, and roll it up a pair of these.One thing to remember: The roller acts as a huge capacitor, and you have to ground the core before you touch it! Otherwise you get a hell of a shock!
It works as well as the leading flatbed laminator, at a tenth of the cost.
Simon.
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Static can make you jump lol
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Simon do you have some images of yours?
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Were been doing a flatbed laminator also…mine is a bit more high tec 😉 with vacuum , electric plugs and led light. We are in the porocess of making the beam right now. So, i hope next week we have it up and running.
For the top i used a lexan 10mm plate, did cnc drill holes for th vacuum to work…about 6000 of them. 2mm hole on every 2 cm. its fantastic for weeding work, we took the motor off of one of our old silk screen machines.
I will post picturs when we are done
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quote Denise Goodfellow:The cutting top mat was about £250 because of the size.
where did you buy the mat denise? Our rollsroller one is needing a new one.
I am not surprised on the cost Denise, as much as i think we all look at the likes of the rollsroller type machines as "just a glorified table" there is much more to them. how robust they are built, smooth running, level, silent, blah blah blah. Throw in they need to cover marketing, reseller commission etc and it all adds up.
custom ones do allow us to be very creative and personalise, lower the costs a lot but at the same time it is a big gamble in getting it "just right".Thanks for posting your picture Matic, i am probably being a bit of a geek, but I love seeing what everyone comes up with their own versions of whatever for their sign / print workplace.
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klass Matic looks the part, Im now modifing mine to have a bottom roller just to finish off a few jobs then i building a bigger one with alot more steel etc but its a good learning curve and yes if i had 10k spare id buy a rollers roller 🙂
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Rob.
I seem to remember it was 12ft X 6ft and we had to cut it down.Rhino seems to ring a bell, sorry minds gone blank lol
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Hi
I never got very far with mine too busy and then sold up, designed my travelling gear on a different system. Guide rail was a 50mm box section with the carriage being a 6mm plate with 3 V groove rollers 2 on bottom 1 on top, will try to find some off the drawings I made & post them.Kev
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Hi
dug this out very simple stable roller set up and can take approx 100 kilo’s per wheel (Sliding Gate Rollers)Kev
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Better than that Daniel Evans here is a link to a video of me applying app tape with it.
I Hope the link works.https://www.facebook.com/noah.sart.96/v … 716314529/
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Thanks Simon
I love the look, very clean.
Is the roller attached to anything? I can’t tell on the video, it doesn’t look like it.
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No it is not attached to anything. That is why it works so well.
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These are all really impressive!
I was thinking about this, been having a play with one at a company I do a lot of work for and really impressed. Again the build quality, ease and precise nature of the rolls roller is difficult to replicate but with the right ingredients it could be awesome and save a lot of money!
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