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  • Brake Caliper Decals

    Posted by Adam_Randell on February 15, 2011 at 10:09 am

    I have had an enquiry for brake caliper decals. what is the best sort of vinyl to use for this?

    flybikeslee replied 13 years, 2 months ago 12 Members · 23 Replies
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  • Andrew Martin

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Im no expert on vinyl, but i think no vinyl would be suitable for this application due to the very high temp on a break caliper… i could be wrong though.

  • Gwaredd Steele

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 10:32 am

    I supply my customer with paintmask & he sprays them on with high temp paint. They get very very hot sometimes & I thinks the vinyl would fail almost instantly.

  • Adam_Randell

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 10:48 am

    i have seen companies on ebay selling stickers for brake calipers.

  • Andrew Martin

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Those stickers are just that… cheap and not up to the job and may only last five minutes under heavy braking when the caliper get very hot.

    The caliper manufacturers dont put stickers on for the high temp reason, they use special resin based paint.

  • Adam_Randell

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 11:14 am

    thanks for the info. i will suggest a stencil to him.

    adam

  • Gwaredd Steele

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 11:15 am
    quote Adam_Randell:

    i have seen companies on ebay selling stickers for brake calipers.

    I’ve also seen those. They usually are sold by the same guys who flog the Subaru Imprezza Rally set for £60.00 😮

  • Brian Little

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 11:37 am
    quote Gwaredd Steele:

    quote Adam_Randell:

    i have seen companies on ebay selling stickers for brake calipers.

    I’ve also seen those. They usually are sold by the same guys who flog the Subaru Imprezza Rally set for £60.00 😮

    hey thats a great price you got there number 😀

  • RayRosher

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 11:46 am
    quote Brian Little:

    quote Gwaredd Steele:

    quote Adam_Randell:

    i have seen companies on ebay selling stickers for brake calipers.

    I’ve also seen those. They usually are sold by the same guys who flog the Subaru Imprezza Rally set for £60.00 😮

    hey thats a great price you got there number 😀

    Yeah! It’s 0990 Imamug

  • flybikeslee

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    to be fair, i made some for myself and they’ve stood up to the test of heat and various wheel cleaners/pressure washers, and i’m quite a spirited driver (they stood up to quite a few laps of oulten too). no special vinyl just Avery FasCal. made a few excess that i’ve put on ebay too and they sell quite well at £3.50 a pop.

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    I don’t think the calipers get that hot, on my bikes I’ve had the discs blue and the calipers ware still able to be touched.

    Steve

  • Bob Clarkson

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    I think it’d be worth trying a couple to find out. I can honestly say I’ve never touched mine after I’ve been driving hard, but I’ve had it so you can smell the brakes and I’ve cooked the pads in the past.

    Next time I need a "P" and realise I’ve almost missed the lay-by, subsequently leading to panic and emergency braking, I’ll feel the caliper the second I get out the car. :lol1:

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 8:31 pm
    quote Bob Clarkson:

    I think it’d be worth trying a couple to find out. I can honestly say I’ve never touched mine after I’ve been driving hard, but I’ve had it so you can smell the brakes and I’ve cooked the pads in the past.

    Next time I need a “P” and realise I’ve almost missed the lay-by, subsequently leading to panic and emergency braking, I’ll feel the caliper the second I get out the car. :lol1:

    have your wee first, just incase you blister your fingers!

  • Bob Clarkson

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Funny you should say that, but I’m going to admit to something really stupid I done some years ago.

    I used to smoke, and had no cigarette lighter in my car of matches/lighter on me. I figured if I drove really fast I’d be able to get the turbo hot enough to light a cigarette off it. This, by the way doesn’t work, but don’t be stupid enough to put your finger on it to see how hot it does get 😳

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    February 15, 2011 at 8:55 pm
    quote Bob Clarkson:

    Funny you should say that, but I’m going to admit to something really stupid I done some years ago.

    I used to smoke, and had no cigarette lighter in my car of matches/lighter on me. I figured if I drove really fast I’d be able to get the turbo hot enough to light a cigarette off it. This, by the way doesn’t work, but don’t be stupid enough to put your finger on it to see how hot it does get 😳

    lol, we’ve all burned our fingers on manifolds, cigarette lighters and discs i’m sure! funniest i saw was a pal who made a flame exhaust thing on his turbo’s datsun 120y, "it does get hot though" he said after demonstrating it and going to take off the chrome bit with the plug in…. i heard the tssssssss of burning fingertips from 30ft away!

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    February 16, 2011 at 10:10 am

    When I was still in engineering I’d quite often weld part and handle them straight away, you got used to the heat and just quickly passed the part between your hands, only sometimes the warning that something was a little too hot was the noise and smell just a little before the pain 😕

    By the way I don’t make a habit of checking the caliper temperature, just on those few occasions when the discs look like they may have got quite warm.

    Steve

  • Gwaredd Steele

    Member
    February 16, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Well, it might be worth a try, but I know they get hot.

    Terrible picture I know, but this was my disc glowing through my wheel after a spirited drive home once 😳

    Needless to say, the calliper would have been pretty warm too :lol1:

  • Ian Johnston

    Member
    February 16, 2011 at 11:19 am
    quote Bob Clarkson:

    Funny you should say that, but I’m going to admit to something really stupid I done some years ago.

    I used to smoke, and had no cigarette lighter in my car of matches/lighter on me. I figured if I drove really fast I’d be able to get the turbo hot enough to light a cigarette off it. This, by the way doesn’t work, but don’t be stupid enough to put your finger on it to see how hot it does get 😳

    It does work but there is a technique, when i smoked i got caught out a few time in a tractor with no lighter,
    you hold the cig till the manifold and a small bit of tobacco will stick to the manifold, pull the cig away, the bit of tobacco that is stuck to the manifold will soon start to smolder, from which if your careful you can light a fag,

    amazing how much a smokers mind works when in the middle of nowhere and your lighter runs out!! 😀

    PS, I’ve quit now, too much hassel 😀

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    February 16, 2011 at 11:28 am
    quote Gwaredd Steele:

    Well, it might be worth a try, but I know they get hot.

    Terrible picture I know, but this was my disc glowing through my wheel after a spirited drive home once 😳

    Needless to say, the calliper would have been pretty warm too :lol1:

    The caliper is insulated from the disc and usually from the pads as well.
    You’ll usually find a insulating pad on the piston face, you don’t want the caliper any-were near the temp of the disc as the brake fluid would degrade.
    They can get to boiling temp though and this is why you need to change your fluid regularly, so you get rid of the water as well which can boil and lock your brakes on.

    Steve
    Mine of useless info

  • Gwaredd Steele

    Member
    February 16, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Yes, but the radiation of heat from the disc will be more than enough to heat the calliper to a few hundred degrees (albeit briefly) Also the transfer of heat from the pads & discs whilst breaking will be enough to heat the calliper to a heat you wouldn’t want to put your pinkies on :lol1:

    I worked as a mechanic when I was younger & remember a car coming in with partially seized brakes. We couldn’t get near them for ages & when we did I remember being surprised at how quickly the heat got into my socket ratchet whilst undoing the calliper bolts 😮

    Was nice though, as it was a cold day!

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    February 16, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Yes seized on brakes do tend to get a little hot.
    Had it happen on my 405 once and I ended up having to replace the wheel bearing, brake cylinder and pipe as well as the drum and shoes.
    You couldn’t even touch the wheel!

    Anyway there is only one way to find out and that try it and let us know if it works

    Steve

  • Turk Erhamza

    Member
    February 16, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    flybikeslee: Really? Not that I don’t believe you, but hard to imagine any vinyl holding up to the heat of a caliper.

    But like Stephen said, only one way to confirm, try it out, let us know. I’m curious now.

  • Steve Morgan

    Member
    February 16, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    ”which can boil and lock your brakes on. ”not strictly true, when the fluid and or the water boils, a pretty rare occurance on road cars I would think, it turns to vapour, creating bubbles which because they compress, unlike a liquid, result in a very long brake pedal or no brakes at all.

    Steve

  • flybikeslee

    Member
    February 17, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    quote Turk Erhamza:

    flybikeslee: Really? Not that I don’t believe you, but hard to imagine any vinyl holding up to the heat of a caliper.

    But like Stephen said, only one way to confirm, try it out, let us know. I’m curious now.

    Really, tried and tested

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