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  • Blacking out windows for shop refit

    Posted by Dan Piddington on September 21, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Hi all,

    I’ve been asked to quote on temporarily blacking out some windows
    for a shop refit. The customer requires a solution that they can remove
    themselves.

    Initially I thought matt black exhibition vinyl with removable adhesive
    or gloss black oracal 551 wet application, easy job, however……..

    Should I be concerned about the glass cracking if the windows get too much
    sunlight and if so what other options are there? I’m giving them black
    poster paper as an option but is there a vinyl based option that won’t
    potentially damage the glass?

    Does the shop window need to be a certain grade of glass?

    The 2 windows are 3682mm x 1905mm
    Thanks in advance for your thoughts

    Dan

    Dan Piddington replied 12 years, 6 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    September 21, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    There has been a lot of discussion in the past about whether or not dark coloured vinyls cause cracking in glass. The general consensus was yes it can, but the glass probably needs to be flawed before this can happen (e.g a small stone chip or nail chip in a corner for the crack to spread from). As a result I would avoid using black – use white vinyl instead to minimise the absorption of heat in sunlight.

  • Jill Marie Welsh

    Member
    September 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Whatever you do, just don’t run it out to the edges.
    Leave at least a ½" margin of bare glass around the edges.
    Depending on size, I’d be tempted to just tape up black correx to fit.
    Love….Jill

  • Peter Dee

    Member
    September 21, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    quote Jill Marie Welsh:

    Whatever you do, just don’t run it out to the edges.
    Leave at least a ½” margin of bare glass around the edges.
    Depending on size, I’d be tempted to just tape up black correx to fit.
    Love….Jill

    Can you explain why to leave a gap please Jill?

  • Derek Heron

    Member
    September 21, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    on all windows i try and leave a small gap
    keeps vinyl away from silicone rubber etc and any moisture that sits on the bottom sills etc + i get a nice cut on the glass for trimming

    derek

  • Bob Scullion

    Member
    September 21, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Do they have to be "blacked out"

    There is a product called "Temp Screen" its white in colour and is designed for this purpose and easily removed.

    Call Bonwyke if interested and ask for a sample and spec sheet.

    Bob

    PS. Rule of thumb is don’t fit black vinyl film to glass unless its toughened/tempered as it absorbs the heat, especially if south facing and will crack/break laminated or float glass.

  • Dan Piddington

    Member
    September 22, 2011 at 7:57 am

    Thanks for all the advice

    Very helpfull

    🙂

  • Dan Piddington

    Member
    October 14, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Hi everybody…..again.

    I’ve now been asked to supply and install the attached to the 2 x
    shop windows.

    How would you guys go about doing this? I’ve applied plenty of
    window graphics before, but nothing of this size.

    My initial thoughts are to print reverse onto clear in 3 drops and back
    up with white leaving a small gap around the edges, or should I print
    the lot on poster paper and tape to the window?

    Your thoughts and experience as always would be very much appreciated

    Ta


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