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  • best way to apply vinyl temp. for police vehicle?

    Posted by Hugh Potter on November 28, 2005 at 10:20 pm

    hey all,

    most of you have seen the hazzard county cop car i did a while back, the guy who owns it rents a fair few cars to a film co, they need his cop car for a pop video or smething, but want it in nypd colours, i’m stuggling to find an old 70’s nypd car to copy, but reckon no-one would realy know if i copied from an 80’s car,

    anyways, this is obviously only gonna be on for a few days max, so we dont want to remove the original decals, i was thinking that to protect the originals that i could carefully smear a thin coat of vaseline or something on the decals and effctively flood the areas with white (body colour), and then place the new decals right over the top, is this gonna work ok or is there a better idea ?

    this has to be designed, material ordered, and on by thurs am latest 😮

    Hugh Potter replied 18 years, 5 months ago 9 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Lynn Normington

    Member
    November 28, 2005 at 10:23 pm

    don’t know if vasoline would work Hugh especially if the car travelled at any speed bit of a puzzler this one I’m sure some one will have an idea 🙄

    Lynn

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    November 28, 2005 at 10:25 pm

    i’d only put vaseline on the decal, then flood a large area around it, i dont imagine, from seeing previous film shoots, that they’ll do anything that concetrates on the car as such,

  • Marekdlux

    Member
    November 28, 2005 at 10:30 pm

    Gerber has a material called “Instachange”. They make it for the edge so it is only 14″ with sprocket holes. It is tacky enough to stick, but not tacky enough to pull off vinyl. This might work for you. Oh, and it is white.
    http://www.gspinc.com/products/materials/GerberInstaChange.html
    -Marek

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    November 28, 2005 at 10:35 pm

    Hugh, you could try this: spray neat application fluid on the graphic, swirl it about a bit so it covers it all and then let it dry. Then clean it off the surrounding area but leave the old graphic covered. This will make removing the new graphic much easier because there will be a film on the original graphic but not enough to stop the new one sticking.

    I have done this with a full vehicle wrap and it does work.

    Edit: Actually, you don’t even need to clean it off the rest of the bodywork. I don’t know why I said that. *hair*

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    November 29, 2005 at 6:12 am

    Hugh, avery do a low tac vinyl too. I have used it to do the same thing for temporary signage over vinyl signs on buses (political Elections usually). Can’t think of the name right now, but if you call avery they should be able to help.

    I think Oracal have one too, but you would need to clarify that with your oracal people there.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    November 29, 2005 at 9:41 am

    thanks guys, i think i’ll go with the regular vinyl though, for the amount i need to order, i need only spend another £30 to buy a whole roll, if i’m gonna have 35m left over, it’ll need to be in something i use all the time ! i’ll see if i can find sometihng to try your idea on Andy, see how it goes,

    ta

  • Cheryl Tissington

    Member
    November 29, 2005 at 10:01 am

    Hugh,
    grafityp supply a temporary/removable type vinyl.

    http://www.grafityp.co.uk/grafitack%20removable.htm

    You could just buy the amount you need. There’s no need to buy a great load of it. They’ll supply next day.

    Cheryl 🙂

  • Stephen Morriss

    Member
    November 29, 2005 at 10:54 am

    Hugh I have to cover up the normal livery on my wife’s old buses for film work and I use Mactac vinyl with the temporary adhesive, works very well but you will need to use 2 layers to block out any high contrast colours.

    White should be no problem but I have to match cream, maroon and red so have a real struggle sometimes.

    However you’ll be amassed at how little will show in a normal shot as even looking closely and knowing what I’m looking for I didn’t see the covered up lettering on the buses on TV even though the colour was not a good match.

    I’ve also used Vaseline over the lettering but don’t leave it on for weeks as it buggers up the paint, it comes up in blisters and makes a right mess.

    By the way they have been used in Born & bred, Hart beat and that one about Guernsey during the war Ireland at war was the most recent.

    Steve

  • Adrian Howard

    Member
    November 29, 2005 at 11:01 am

    there are some 70’s NYPD cars on this page and the other sites are worth a look

    http://www.carlospomares.com/misc-nypd-carshow-2005.htm

    http://www.policeny.com/favoritelinks.html

    http://www.copcar.com/index.html

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    November 29, 2005 at 12:11 pm

    thanks all, the advice is most welcome, though i think in this case i’d rather by normal vnyl, as opposed to temp vinyl, main reason ? price ! regular 651 is a couple of quid a mtr, time you get to 15mtrs i might as well put some extra dosh on and buy a 50m roll, i use light blue often enough to warrant it then i got 35+ mtrs for profit only ! just seems more sensible than spending more money on less product that i’ll probably only use once,

    Adrian, just the pics was looking for, brilliant !! thanks.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    November 29, 2005 at 12:24 pm
    quote Hugh Potter:

    thanks all, the advice is most welcome, though i think in this case i’d rather by normal vnyl, as opposed to temp vinyl, main reason ? price ! regular 651 is a couple of quid a mtr, time you get to 15mtrs i might as well put some extra dosh on and buy a 50m roll, i use light blue often enough to warrant it then i got 35+ mtrs for profit only ! just seems more sensible than spending more money on less product that i’ll probably only use once,

    Adrian, just the pics was looking for, brilliant !! thanks.

    Until you damage the signs you are trying to save from doing again mate, and then all your profit is out the window 😮

    I know what you say is true, but if you were to damage the original signs and have to do them again, would it still be a saving… probably… but I still feel compelled to say something anyway 🙁

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    November 30, 2005 at 12:29 am

    would it damage them ? we’re only talking of a day or two at the most ? luckily i sold him a spare set of decals when he bought the originals too !!

    serioiusly though, what the likely hood of damage by covering them in the manner suggested ?

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    November 30, 2005 at 4:24 am

    Hugh, I have covered original graphics in application tape on a flat panel in the past and then applied vinyl over the top of that. Worked alright for me at the time, never thought about the way Andy has mentioned so will have a go at that some time just to see if I can do it that way.

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    December 8, 2005 at 1:03 pm

    thanks for the input guy n gals, seemed the film co are rather tight with their budgets !

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